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From: Rod Speed on 31 Dec 2009 01:42 Ant wrote > Arno typed >>>> I see thios thing has only been restarted 72 times in 5 years. >>>> Maybe you have a memory leak in the OS or some application? >>>> Best check free memory. >>> I checked already. >>>> Other possible causes: >>>> - Spyware/malware. >>> Clean system. >>>> - Updated applications needing more resources >>>> or haveing (new) memory leaks. >>>> - A CPU with thermal throtheling and an unmaintained >>>> cooling system (dust, fan with lubrication problems) >>> Could be. How can I check to see how fast CPU is going at max? It's old. :) >> Hmm. There are some tools that can detect thermal throteling, >> but I have no idea what they are. Maybe try to get the CPU >> temperature with something like speedfan and see whether it >> is suspicuously high. >>>> - Disk getting fuller and accesses more distributed (longer >>>> seeks) and maybe also more in the slower areas towards the >>>> end of the disk. >>> Isn't defrag supposed to fix that? >> That is a fundamental problem which cannot be fixed. A seek over more tracks just needs longer time, so a fuller disk >> is typically a bit slower. > Hmm, could be slower. I have like 1-2 GB free on C: and 8 GB free on D: and E:. These are all partitions/drives on one > HDD. That claim about full hard drives being slower is just plain wrong. Doesnt happen.
From: Arno on 31 Dec 2009 11:56 Franc Zabkar <fzabkar(a)iinternode.on.net> wrote: > On 30 Dec 2009 15:55:52 GMT, Arno <me(a)privacy.net> put finger to > keyboard and composed: >>Franc Zabkar <fzabkar(a)iinternode.on.net> wrote: >>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:42:18 -0600, ANTant(a)zimage.com put finger to >>> keyboard and composed: >> >>>>I noticed my five(?) years old office PC's HDD ... >> >>> Model Family: Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 family >> >>> 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 253 253 000 Old_age Always >>> - 65 >> >>> 9 Power_On_Minutes 0x0032 141 141 000 Old_age Always >>> - 614h+43m >> >>> Hmmm, you have an old generation HDD that has run for only 614 hours >>> and has been power cycled only 65 times ??? >> >>I think smartctl has some interpretation problems with attribute 9 >>for some disks. I have a notebook disks (Samsung 160JI), that >>tells me 2562261 "hours" in attribute 9, where it should say >>"half minutes". >> >>Look at the selftest log, there is something more realistic >>(4 years run-time) for the last selftest. If you take 614 hours >>and assume smartctl took seconds instead of minutes as base >>units, you end up pretty close to the same 4 years. > Here are the two SMART reports: > ===================================================================== > Local Time is: Tue Dec 29 15:33:24 2009 PST > 9 Power_On_Minutes 0x0032 141 141 000 Old_age Always > - 614h+43m > ===================================================================== > Local Time is: Tue Dec 29 18:23:31 2009 PST > 9 Power_On_Minutes 0x0032 141 141 000 Old_age Always > - 617h+32m > ===================================================================== > Difference in Local Time is 2hrs 50min. > Difference in Power_On_Minutes is 2hrs 49min. Thanks for ruining my (obviously wrong) interpretation. Hmm. Time since last power-up then? Arno -- Arno Wagner, Dr. sc. techn., Dipl. Inform., CISSP -- Email: arno(a)wagner.name GnuPG: ID: 1E25338F FP: 0C30 5782 9D93 F785 E79C 0296 797F 6B50 1E25 338F ---- Cuddly UI's are the manifestation of wishful thinking. -- Dylan Evans
From: Jim Nugent on 31 Dec 2009 13:54 "Ant" <ant(a)zimage.comANT> wrote in message news:_6udnRczXegUeafWnZ2dnUVZ_oFi4p2d(a)earthlink.com... > On 12/29/2009 9:00 PM PT, Franc Zabkar typed: > >> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:42:18 -0600, ANTant(a)zimage.com put finger to >> keyboard and composed: >> >> Check whether it has been downgraded from DMA mode to PIO. > > Would that be in XP Pro. SP2's Device Manager? Here are instructions for making sure UDMA is turned on from http://www.securom.com/message.asp?m=copy. These instructions are intended for troubleshooting errant CD-ROM copy protection issues, so just substitute "your slow HDD" for "your CD/DVD drive." Note that the setting applies to the IDE Channel (Controller) device, not the HDD device itself. You probably have a primary and secondary channel. 1.. Open the Device Manager. 2.. Double-click IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers to display the list of controllers and channels. 3.. Right-click the icon for the channel to which your CD/DVD drive is connected, select Properties, and then click the Advanced Settings tab. 4.. In the Current Transfer Mode drop-down box, select "DMA if Available" if the current setting is "PIO Only." If the drop-down box already shows "DMA if Available" but the current transfer mode is PIO, then you must toggle the settings. That is: a.. Change the selection from "DMA if available" to PIO only, and click OK. b.. Then repeat the steps above to change the selection to DMA if available.
From: Ant on 31 Dec 2009 14:20 On 12/30/2009 10:40 PM PT, Rod Speed typed: >>>>> Everest can tell you. >>>> >>> http://pastie.org/761689 for the results. >>> >> You need the overclock tab for that. >> > I didn't see an OC tab. Or did I overlook it? > Probably, its in the Computer tab on the left, second from the top. I will check again on Monday (long weekend now). Happy new year BTW. ;) -- "The sun's just a big glass, we're all ants, I LOVE YOU." --"Magnified" song by the Failure band /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: philpi(a)earthlink.netANT ( ) or ANTant(a)zimage.com Ant is/was listening to a song on his home computer: ShootingStar - /Closer\ (ID: 299733)
From: Ant on 31 Dec 2009 14:21
On 12/31/2009 10:54 AM PT, Jim Nugent typed: > "Ant"<ant(a)zimage.comANT> wrote in message > news:_6udnRczXegUeafWnZ2dnUVZ_oFi4p2d(a)earthlink.com... >> On 12/29/2009 9:00 PM PT, Franc Zabkar typed: >> >>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:42:18 -0600, ANTant(a)zimage.com put finger to >>> keyboard and composed: >>> >>> Check whether it has been downgraded from DMA mode to PIO. >> >> Would that be in XP Pro. SP2's Device Manager? > > Here are instructions for making sure UDMA is turned on from > http://www.securom.com/message.asp?m=copy. These instructions are intended > for troubleshooting errant CD-ROM copy protection issues, so just substitute > "your > slow HDD" for "your CD/DVD drive." Note that the setting applies to the IDE > Channel (Controller) device, not the HDD device itself. You probably have a > primary and secondary channel. Thanks, I already checked yesterday and posted about it: Primary IDE Channel #1: Device 0: Current Transfer Mode: Ultra DMA Mode 5 Device 1: Current Transfer Mode: Not Applicable Primary IDE Channel #1: Device 0: Current Transfer Mode: Ultra DMA Mode 2 Device 1: Current Transfer Mode: Not Applicable http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/8297/screenshotl.gif -- "None preaches better than the ant, and she says nothing." --Ben Franklin /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: philpi(a)earthlink.netANT ( ) or ANTant(a)zimage.com Ant is/was listening to a song on his home computer: TrevorMcNally - TM - Retrovert (ID: 298973) |