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From: Pentcho Valev on 10 Sep 2009 01:15
Premise: The wavelength is determined by the light source and cannot
depend on the movements of the observer.

Premise: (frequency)=(speed of light)/(wavelength)

Conclusion: If the observer is initially at rest relative to but then
starts moving towards the light source, the frequency (Doppler effect)
and THE SPEED OF LIGHT INCREASE.

Pentcho Valev
pvalev(a)yahoo.com
From: gratis-_+_8_Sum_ on 10 Sep 2009 01:17
On Sep 9, 10:15 pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Premise: The wavelength is determined by the light source and cannot
> depend on the movements of the observer.
>
> Premise: (frequency)=(speed of light)/(wavelength)
>
> Conclusion: If the observer is initially at rest relative to but then
> starts moving towards the light source, the frequency (Doppler effect)
> and THE SPEED OF LIGHT INCREASE.
>
> Pentcho Valev
> pva...(a)yahoo.com

DO :3 <- '"'"'"'".1$':1~#32768'"~"#1109$#1"'$':1~#128'"~#2735'$
':1~"#546$#0"'"~"#43679"'$':1~"#1365$#0"'"~"#1023$#63"'$
'"'"'".1$#0"~#34959'$':1~"#0$#1170"'"~#11007'$':
1~"#0$#2925"'"~
"#2005$#255"'
From: Pentcho Valev on 10 Sep 2009 03:43
On Sep 10, 8:10 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Premise: The wavelength is determined by the light source and cannot
> depend on the movements of the observer.
>
> Premise: (frequency)=(speed of light)/(wavelength)
>
> Conclusion: If the observer is initially at rest relative to but then
> starts moving towards the light source, the frequency (Doppler effect)
> and THE SPEED OF LIGHT INCREASE.

Compare with John Norton's reasoning (the TEXT IN CAPITALS is wrong):

http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/teaching/HPS_0410/chapters/big_bang/index.html
John Norton: "Here's a light wave and an observer. If the observer
were to hurry towards the source of the light, the observer would now
pass wavecrests more frequently than the resting observer. That would
mean that moving observer would find the frequency of the light to
have increased (AND CORRESPONDINGLY FOR THE WAVELENGTH - THE DISTANCE
BETWEEN CRESTS - TO HAVE DECREASED)."

Pentcho Valev
pvalev(a)yahoo.com
From: Don Stockbauer on 10 Sep 2009 04:14
On Sep 10, 12:15 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Premise: The wavelength is determined by the light source and cannot
> depend on the movements of the observer.
>
> Premise: (frequency)=(speed of light)/(wavelength)
>
> Conclusion: If the observer is initially at rest relative to but then
> starts moving towards the light source, the frequency (Doppler effect)
> and THE SPEED OF LIGHT INCREASE.
>
> Pentcho Valev
> pva...(a)yahoo.com

The frequency increases, but the speed doesn't.

What is the speed relative to?
From: Jens Stuckelberger on 10 Sep 2009 12:29
On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:15:12 -0700, Pentcho Valev wrote:

> Premise: The wavelength is determined by the light source and cannot
> depend on the movements of the observer.
>
> Premise: (frequency)=(speed of light)/(wavelength)
>
> Conclusion: If the observer is initially at rest relative to but then
> starts moving towards the light source, the frequency (Doppler effect)
> and THE SPEED OF LIGHT INCREASE.

How do you manage to be so ignorant? Did you take graduate
courses?


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