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From: Dr J R Stockton on 7 Dec 2009 12:33
In comp.lang.javascript message <1894916.DlbCDJkKcV(a)PointedEars.de>,
Sun, 6 Dec 2009 05:42:08, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars(a)web.de>
posted:
>>
>> ->
>> http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/files/ECMA-ST/ECMA-
>> 262.pdf
>>
>> The latter seems /echt/.
>
>And yet the title of that latter PDF document confusingly is only "Final
>final final final draft Standard ECMA-262 5th edition", at least in my
>viewer (Okular). I wonder, is this just a publishing glitch of some sort or
>will the final revision be published later (as it was with ES3, published at
>ecma-international.org in December 1999, but the revision named "final",
>being available at Mozilla.org, dated March 24, 2000)?


At least one of you and your viewer has a warped sense of humour. The
document at that URL is visibly headed (in text) "ECMA-262 5th Edition
/ December 2009", preceded by "Standard" (maybe graphic), and the text
includes "This Ecma Standard has been adopted by the General Assembly of
December 2009."

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From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn on 8 Dec 2009 00:32
Dr J R Stockton wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn posted:
>>> ->
>>> http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/files/ECMA-ST/ECMA-
>>> 262.pdf
>>>
>>> The latter seems /echt/.
>>
>> And yet the title of that latter PDF document confusingly is only "Final
>> final final final draft Standard ECMA-262 5th edition", at least in my
>> viewer (Okular). I wonder, is this just a publishing glitch of some sort
>> or will the final revision be published later (as it was with ES3,
>> published at ecma-international.org in December 1999, but the revision
>> named "final", being available at Mozilla.org, dated March 24, 2000)?
>
> At least one of you and your viewer has a warped sense of humour. The
> document at that URL is visibly headed (in text) "ECMA-262 5th Edition
> / December 2009", preceded by "Standard" (maybe graphic), and the text
> includes "This Ecma Standard has been adopted by the General Assembly of
> December 2009."

However, the title of the PDF document as stored in its metadata, which is
that I found out what the viewer displays, is exactly as I said. So ISTM
that the one with a warped sense of humor is its author, Patrick Charollais,
when he created it with Acrobat PDFMaker 8.1 for Word on 2009-12-03.


PointedEars
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From: Jorge on 8 Dec 2009 04:57
On Dec 4, 10:33 pm, kangax <kan...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> ES5 is now officially approved as an ECMA standard —https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/es-discuss/2009-December/010215.html
>
> --
> kangax

Congratulations to the whole TC39 committee, and to Crockford in
particular not only for the (minimalist) 3.1 idea, but for managing to
push it bravely enough to a happy end. As with everything else in
life, time will tell how good an idea it was... actually. :-) (fingers
crossed)

Now, Implementors ! On your marks ! get ready ! get set ! GO !
--
Jorge.
From: Jorge on 8 Dec 2009 05:20
On Dec 8, 10:57 am, Jorge <jo...(a)jorgechamorro.com> wrote:
> (...) Crockford in
> particular (...) for the (minimalist) 3.1 idea (...)

BTW, isn't it that HTML5 might also be in the need of "a Crockford" ?
--
Jorge.
From: Garrett Smith on 9 Dec 2009 00:48
Garrett Smith wrote:
> John G Harris wrote:
>> On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 at 16:33:39, in comp.lang.javascript, kangax wrote:
>>> ES5 is now officially approved as an ECMA standard — https://mail.mozil
>>> la.org/pipermail/es-discuss/2009-December/010215.html
>>
>> Part of the FAQ needs to be changed.
>>
>> The links to the ECMA-262 standard in sections 2.1 and 3.2 point to an
>> ECMA page that now displays the "5th edition (December 2009)", so no FAQ
>> changes are needed there.
>>
>> <FAQENTRY>
>>
>> The paragraph in section 2.1 that starts
>> "The current edition of ECMA-262 is the 3rd Edition."
>> needs to be changed as ES3 is no longer current.
>>
>
> Should change "current" to "the most widely supported".
>
> Also, the entry mentions JScript versions 5.0 and 5.5 and JavaScriptTM
> versions 1.3 and 1.5.
>
> Instead, it should not mention multiple versions of the same
> implementation; just the base version.
>
> | The most widely supported edition of ECMA-262 is the 3rd Edition
> | (1999). There is fair support for this edition in JScript 5.5+ (buggy)
> | and good support JavaScript 1.5.
>

OK, so going with that.

Proposed text for #futureEcmaScript:
| The 5th Edition of ECMAScript was approved on 2009-12-04. There is
| some support in recent implementations (JScript 5.8, JavaScript 1.8,
| JavaScriptCore).

http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-262.htm

Proposed to remove text for: #localization
Replace:
| Much more support is expected in future versions of ECMAScript.
with:
| ECMAScript 5 introduced Date.prototype.toISOString.
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