EXPERIMENTAL ARGUMENTS AGAINST SPECIAL RELATIVITY?
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From: NoEinstein on 31 Jul 2008 06:51 On Jul 29, 8:48 pm, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote: > Dear Henri: For much too long, many have considered that a luminiferous ether is necessary for the propagation of light. IF light was... waves, the pressure differences in the ether would keep the light going. But that supposes that the ether is uniform. Otherwise, the light couldn't travel where there is no ether. But light isn't in the least waves! It is perfectly happy to travel through the Swiss cheese voids between galaxies where there is no ether. The smallest energy unit in the Universe is an IOTA (my own term). I consider those to be like little rotating doughnuts of energy. Depending upon which side of the doughnut you are looking at, the rotation can be clockwise, or counterclockwise. So, ether is polar. If IOTAs are able to line-up with all of the rotation going in the same direction, you have rotating cylinders. If the cylinders bend back on themselves, you have thin rotating screws of etheror magnetic lines of force. It is their rotation that can induce electric current to flow in wires. LIGHT is just speeding ether. GRAVITY is flowing ether, like "snowflakes" fallingwhile light, or charged particles, that go in the opposite direction, replace the ether pressure, down. Light shoots up through the falling ether snow like compressed snowballs. On Earth 'the light' is infrared heat energy. ELECTROMAGNETISM is just strings of aligned ether, which are the longest 'threads' in the Universe. MATTER is just tangles of ether. So, everything that exists is made of a single building block! That term... "fields" is superfluous. Yes, gravity pressure varies. But the word field injects another variable to the understanding of very simple processes. Using the 'field crutch' is like saying "vague" or... "this needs mathematicians to understand how it all works". Or... you can't understand what is happening HERE, without knowing what is happening OUT THERE. The Laws of Physics are the same all across the Universe. Understand what is happening HERE, and you KNOW what is happening... OUT THERE. THAT is how I have come to understand the Universe as a simple truth, not as an unfathomable mystery! So, use EM as a term in explaining the very small, but refrain from using it in the very large "simpler" contexts. Do that, and we both are 'teaching' the same physics! NoEinstein > > On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:09:43 -0700 (PDT), NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> > wrote: > > >On Jul 27, 8:12 pm, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote: > >> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 05:45:20 -0700 (PDT), NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> > >> wrote: > > >> >On Jul 23, 7:35 pm, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:05:38 -0700 (PDT), NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> > >> >> >The above two paragraphs disproves Maxwell, Lorentz and Einstein, and > >> >> >disproves SR and GR. But the ether is alive and well! Ether NURTURES > >> >> >light on its course, because light and ether are the same 'stuff'. > >> >> >Varying ether density and flow explains every single observation in > >> >> >nature. Ether is the 'stuff' of all matter, and the mechanism of all > >> >> >forces. Understand ether, and you understand creation! NoEinstein > > >> >> There is no single absolute aether. > >> >> Throughout the whole of space there are regions that behave like weak 'local > >> >> aethers' where any EM passing through TENDS TOWARDS a uniform speed wrt that > >> >> region. A consequence of this is that the speed of all light moving in a > >> >> particular direction in space tends towards (but by no means reaches) > >> >> uniformity. > >> >> Also, there appears to be an aetherlike 'sphere of EM influence' around all > >> >> large masses, such that the speed of light escaping from such objects is > >> >> unified to varying degrees. > > >> >> > > > >> >> >Where Angels Fear to Fall > >> >> >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/1e3e4... > >> >> >Cleaning Away Einsteins Mishmash > >> >> >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/5d847... > >> >> >Dropping Einstein Like a Stone > >> >> >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/989e1... > > >> >> Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm > > >> >> All religion involves selling a nonexistant product to gullible fools. Einstein cleverly exploited this principle with his second postulate.- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >Dear Henri: When many hear the word "ether" they think: a homogeneous > >> >fluid of some kind. Also, people have to referred to the ether as if > >> >it is some sort of 3D grid that moving objects must be referenced to. > >> >Actually, ether is just the stuff of matter and energy. Ether is > >> >concentrated near where the matter is concentrated. Stars draw in > >> >ether (the force of their gravity), then replace that ether with their > >> >emitted radiant energy and expelled high energy particles. Think of > >> >that process as being like people traveling in a busy airport > >> >concourse. Half of the people are going one way; half the other. If > >> >either of those two directions of travel stopped, the people available > >> >to keep the "flow" going would stop. THAT is what happens in a Black > >> >Hole. Matter becomes so compacted that there isn't any wiggle room to > >> >maintain temperature. So, there is no light, nor particles, going > >> >out. When such happens, the ether pressure that had caused the pre > >> >Black Hole's gravity just shuts off. And the star distribution data > >> >for Andromeda shows just that! There is a gap in the stars near the > >> >center where the stars went flying off on their tangentsjust like a > >> >spinning stone on a string would fly out if the string broke. > >> > Ether varies from zero density to pre black hole density. > >> >Because ether and light are the same thing, the ether through which > >> >light passes will NURTURE the light on its path. If, say, an > >> >exploding star sends out light as it explodes, the velocity of the > >> >light is 'c' plus 'v'. The reason most light gets to us at just... > >> >'c', is because the ether will act as a drag on light traveling faster > >> >than 'c'. The lone exception is when the concentration of light is so > >> >strong that it pushes the ether out of the way, and TUNNELS through. > >> >The latter is like big football player muscling-through a throng of > >> >people. If there is enough pressure, the players can get through. > >> > You are one of the few people on the groups who actually think. > >> >I hope my explanations will be useful to you. NoEinstein > > >> You are getting there. We share many views. > > >> 'H-Aether' (Henri's aether) is nothing but the 'stuff fields are made of'. > >> Local volumes of such H-aether exists to varying degrees throughout the > >> universe, particularly around large masses. The speed of all light passing > >> through is modified so that it TENDS TOWARDS a unified speed in any one > >> direction. The equilibrium EM speed in any volume of H-aether is not > >> necessarily c wrt little planet Earth. Light arriving here does so at virtually > >> any speed before it is brought to near c by extinction in the atmosphere. > > >> An important feater of H-aether theory is that when light changes speed during > >> transit, so does its intrinsic wavelength, in a way that maintains doppler > >> shift as a true indicator of source speed relative to the observer. > > >> Doppler shift from an ACCELERATING source is a different matter that I wont go > >> into here. > > >> Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm > > >> All religion involves selling a nonexistant product to gullible fools. Einstein cleverly exploited this principle with his second postulate.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > >Dear Henri: The Earth's atmosphere can't be extrapolated to account > >for gravitational optical effects. The Sun has an analogous > >'atmosphere'. But measurable optical effects begin like ten solar > >diameters away from the Sun. Ether is swirling down in that distance, > >and even as far out as the orbit of the planet Mercury, which the > >ether causes to precess. > > I know that you have your own explanations for the 'Doppler' > >shifts. Those might suggest that the Universe is expanding [from the > >Big Bang... Ha, ha!]. But the light simply AGES. Light is constantly > >crossing paths with other light, a. nd such simply WEDGES the photons > >further apart. There is no need to consider EM fields. There are > >Swiss-cheese-like voids between the galaxies. Those voids contain > >ZERO ether, because ether tends to form meniscuses. > > Yes. That's part of MY theory. At the WDT (Wilson density threshold) space > starts to become holey. The holes contain absolutely nothing. The presence of > fields destroys that nothingness. What you are refering to as aether is, in my > opinion, the stuff that fields of all descriptions are made of. We don't know > much about it but wherever there is significant gravity, magnetic or > electrostatic action, light speed will experience some kind of modification. > > >In areas of very > >high light, and particle flow, the ether there gets jostled so much > >that meniscuses can't form. But when they do, and dilute ether inside > >the bubbles will eventually bump into the "fly-paper-like" meniscus > >and become part of such. > > I see space as like a very low density turbulent gas. Density refers to fields > as well as ordinary matter.....which conceivably might amount to the same > thing. > > > The entire Universe is bounded by an electromagnetic meniscus of > >ether. Because of that, there could very well be other universes, > >too. > > Agreed. > > >Again, thanks for your replies, and for your agreements on some > >important aspects of science! NoEinstein > > Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm > > All religion involves selling a nonexistant product to gullible fools. Einstein cleverly exploited this principle with his second postulate.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: PD on 31 Jul 2008 08:31 On Jul 31, 4:59 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > On Jul 29, 8:37 pm, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote: > > Dear Henri: Yes, we've got PD pegged. I just wish it was with a > 'wooden stake' through his blood sucker's heart. NoEinstein > :>) Good to know you're irritated. And apparently not just by me. I wonder if you have a compulsion to be mocked. You certainly can't seem to step away from the circumstances where that happens. Ever wonder what your role in that is? PD
From: Dr. Henri Wilson on 31 Jul 2008 18:39 On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 02:59:54 -0700 (PDT), NoEinstein <noeinstein(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: >On Jul 29, 8:37�pm, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote: >> >Dear Henri: Yes, we've got PD pegged. I just wish it was with a >'wooden stake' through his blood sucker's heart. �� NoEinstein �� I can't understand why anyone would want to persist in making a fool of himself like he does. Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T) www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm All religion involves selling a nonexistant product to gullible fools. Einstein cleverly exploited this principle with his second postulate.
From: Dr. Henri Wilson on 31 Jul 2008 18:40 On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 05:31:58 -0700 (PDT), PD <TheDraperFamily(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On Jul 31, 4:59�am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: >> On Jul 29, 8:37�pm, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote: >> >> Dear Henri: �Yes, we've got PD pegged. �I just wish it was with a >> 'wooden stake' through his blood sucker's heart. ��� NoEinstein �� >> > >:>) >Good to know you're irritated. >And apparently not just by me. >I wonder if you have a compulsion to be mocked. You certainly can't >seem to step away from the circumstances where that happens. Ever >wonder what your role in that is? Diaper, just accept the facts. YOU have been hopelessly indoctrinated by a typical religion. >PD Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T) www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm All religion involves selling a nonexistant product to gullible fools. Einstein cleverly exploited this principle with his second postulate.
From: Eric Gisse on 31 Jul 2008 18:55
On Jul 31, 2:39 pm, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote: > On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 02:59:54 -0700 (PDT), NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> > wrote: > > >On Jul 29, 8:37 pm, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote: > > >Dear Henri: Yes, we've got PD pegged. I just wish it was with a > >'wooden stake' through his blood sucker's heart. NoEinstein > > I can't understand why anyone would want to persist in making a fool of himself > like he does. Irony factor 10! > > Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm > > All religion involves selling a nonexistant product to gullible fools. Einstein cleverly exploited this principle with his second postulate. |