EXPERIMENTAL ARGUMENTS AGAINST SPECIAL RELATIVITY?
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From: NoEinstein on 25 Aug 2008 20:50 On Aug 24, 3:13 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Aug 23, 10:25 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 23, 11:22 am, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Aug 17, 12:51 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 21, 3:45 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Aug 21, 2:07 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 20, 6:31 pm, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:00:12 -0700 (PDT), NoEinstein <noeinst....(a)bellsouth.net> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >On Aug 20, 8:25 am, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> On Aug 19, 9:39 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> If you do not like the responses to posts you make an open and > > > > > > > >> unfettered forum, examine your motives for posting here, knowing full > > > > > > > >> well that you leave yourself open to all sorts of responses. It's been > > > > > > > >> suggested to you before that you post to a blog where you can control > > > > > > > >> the responses you receive. It is a fool's errand to attempt control > > > > > > > >> where you don't have it. Examine your motives. > > > > > > > > >> PD- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > >Dear PD: My interest in this newsgroup is about new truths in > > > > > > > >science, not about getting into strength of personality battles with > > > > > > > >you. In the nearly three years that you have replied to what I have > > > > > > > >done (never vice versa), you haven't once responded to reason. Your > > > > > > > >ego hinges on the "complexity" of the things you purport to > > > > > > > >understand. "Where there is complexity in science, errors likely > > > > > > > >loom." > > > > > > > > >Your misplaced sense of superiority makes you just a parasite to true > > > > > > > >science. Having the last word, isn't the same as being right. I > > > > > > > >can't continue to spend hours a week of my time trying to banter with > > > > > > > >your "skirting" of science. So, please refrain from replying on my > > > > > > > >posts, again. NoEinstein > > > > > > > > Diaper is a paid member of the Einsteinian papal guard. He knows nothing about > > > > > > > physics. His sole aim is to disrupt constructive scientific discussion and try > > > > > > > to postpone the inevitable day when the truth about relativity is exposed and > > > > > > > finally accepted by the physics establishment. > > > > > > > > Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index..htm > > > > > > > > All religion involves selling a nonexistant concept to gullible fools. Einstein cleverly exploited this principle with his second postulate.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > Dear Henri: That one paragraph should be posted on every newsgroup > > > > > > Google has! Thanks! NoEinstein > > > > > > Why would anybody on alt.religion.buddhism care about what Henri > > > > > thinks of me? > > > > > PD: Why not put that question to such group? NoEinstein > > > > Be my guest. Tell me what kind of response you get. You can point to a > > > link to show me, when you've done that. > > > > PD- > > > Dear PD: :-} - ~ - - NoEinstein > > Changed your mind? Not going to do it? > > PD- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Dear PD: :-} - ~ - - NoEinstein
From: NoEinstein on 25 Aug 2008 20:51 On Aug 25, 8:40 am, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Aug 24, 5:06 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 24, 3:12 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Aug 23, 10:24 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 23, 11:18 am, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Aug 22, 7:54 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 21, 3:17 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Aug 21, 2:05 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Aug 20, 12:58 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 20, 10:59 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Your misplaced sense of superiority makes you just a parasite to true > > > > > > > > > > science. Having the last word, isn't the same as being right. I > > > > > > > > > > can't continue to spend hours a week of my time trying to banter with > > > > > > > > > > your "skirting" of science. So, please refrain from replying on my > > > > > > > > > > posts, again. NoEinstein > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, NoEinstein, I respond as I choose and not at your whim. I've > > > > > > > > > already suggested to you how to post your content in such a way that > > > > > > > > > you can control responses. Why you would attempt to exert control > > > > > > > > > where you do not have control is beyond me. > > > > > > > > > > If you don't want to banter with me, then STOP DOING IT. > > > > > > > > > > If you need me to stop first, because you can't HELP YOURSELF when I > > > > > > > > > say something, that is not my problem. > > > > > > > > > > PD > > > > > > > > > Dear PD: :-} - ~ - - NoEinstein > > > > > > > > See? You can't help yourself. > > > > > > > I'm not going to help you overcome this compulsion. You're going to > > > > > > > have to conquer this demon all by yourself. > > > > > > > > PD > > > > > > > Dear PD: I don't need any help for you to do anything. Being > > > > > > involved in pointless banter can't resolve differences. Only > > > > > > objectivity in science can do that. I invite you to take your > > > > > > comments and you compulsions elsewhere. But when you can't, folks > > > > > > should note that I predicted just that. NoEinstein > > > > > > Gee, it's fascinating. Much as you want to resist, you cannot. I toy > > > > > with you and you beg ("invite") me to stop, over and over and over > > > > > again. You are subject to my whim. If I choose to release you, I can, > > > > > by simply acquiescing to your plea to not respond to you. But if I > > > > > don't so choose, you are enthralled and you find yourself compulsively > > > > > bound to respond, even if it means projecting your own compulsion on > > > > > others to try to exert control. > > > > > > You attempt to exert control over responses on a public forum where > > > > > you BY DEFINITION do not have control. And indeed, you find yourself > > > > > completely under the control of others, because once you post, you are > > > > > compelled to respond to every reply, whether you want to or not. And > > > > > despite your abject slavery, you cannot walk away from posting to this > > > > > group. You cannot create a free blog, you cannot publish. Instead, the > > > > > ONLY thing you are capable of doing is posting to a forum that > > > > > frustrates you, and writing letters to presidents that you know from > > > > > the outset will be ignored. > > > > > > I don't know why you have this psychological issue, NoEinstein, but I > > > > > can imagine it's rather crippling and has led to an enormous sense of > > > > > failure. > > > > > > PD- > > > > > Dear PD: :-} - ~ - - NoEinstein > > > > See? There you did it AGAIN! > > > You must be completely frustrated with yourself, that I have complete > > > and total power over you. I do something that I know is going to make > > > you yap, and you yap. I might as well be holding a little doggie > > > biscuit and commanding you, "Speak!" > > > > Have you ever looked in the mirror and wondered why you have such a > > > compulsion about this? Have you wondered why your self-image is so > > > fragile that you absolutely MUST have the last word, as a token of > > > control? Attempting to assert control where you have no control is a > > > symptom for those whose lives have spun out of control, and are > > > totally frustrated with their lot in life. Do you not see this as a > > > problem for you? > > > > PD > > > Dear PD: :-} - ~ - - NoEinstein > > Fabulously, spectacularly pathetic. How long can I make you do little > doggie tricks? > Speak, boy, speak! > > PD- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Dear PD: :-} - ~ - - NoEinstein
From: NoEinstein on 25 Aug 2008 20:52 On Aug 23, 11:18 am, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Aug 22, 7:54 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 21, 3:17 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Aug 21, 2:05 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 20, 12:58 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Aug 20, 10:59 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > Your misplaced sense of superiority makes you just a parasite to true > > > > > > science. Having the last word, isn't the same as being right.. I > > > > > > can't continue to spend hours a week of my time trying to banter with > > > > > > your "skirting" of science. So, please refrain from replying on my > > > > > > posts, again. NoEinstein > > > > > > Sorry, NoEinstein, I respond as I choose and not at your whim. I've > > > > > already suggested to you how to post your content in such a way that > > > > > you can control responses. Why you would attempt to exert control > > > > > where you do not have control is beyond me. > > > > > > If you don't want to banter with me, then STOP DOING IT. > > > > > > If you need me to stop first, because you can't HELP YOURSELF when I > > > > > say something, that is not my problem. > > > > > > PD > > > > > Dear PD: :-} - ~ - - NoEinstein > > > > See? You can't help yourself. > > > I'm not going to help you overcome this compulsion. You're going to > > > have to conquer this demon all by yourself. > > > > PD > > > Dear PD: I don't need any help for you to do anything. Being > > involved in pointless banter can't resolve differences. Only > > objectivity in science can do that. I invite you to take your > > comments and you compulsions elsewhere. But when you can't, folks > > should note that I predicted just that. NoEinstein > > Gee, it's fascinating. Much as you want to resist, you cannot. I toy > with you and you beg ("invite") me to stop, over and over and over > again. You are subject to my whim. If I choose to release you, I can, > by simply acquiescing to your plea to not respond to you. But if I > don't so choose, you are enthralled and you find yourself compulsively > bound to respond, even if it means projecting your own compulsion on > others to try to exert control. > > You attempt to exert control over responses on a public forum where > you BY DEFINITION do not have control. And indeed, you find yourself > completely under the control of others, because once you post, you are > compelled to respond to every reply, whether you want to or not. And > despite your abject slavery, you cannot walk away from posting to this > group. You cannot create a free blog, you cannot publish. Instead, the > ONLY thing you are capable of doing is posting to a forum that > frustrates you, and writing letters to presidents that you know from > the outset will be ignored. > > I don't know why you have this psychological issue, NoEinstein, but I > can imagine it's rather crippling and has led to an enormous sense of > failure. > > PD- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Dear PD: :-} - ~ - - NoEinstein
From: Jerry on 30 Aug 2008 05:55
On Aug 17, 1:07 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > On Aug 16, 10:03 am,Jerry<Cephalobus_alie...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > On Aug 16, 8:07 am,Jerry<Cephalobus_alie...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > > You have a completely unbalanced, flimsy, tall and unbalanced > > > contraption that will bend and sway under its own weight as it > > > rotates. The assembly is mounted on a cheap Lazy Susan, and the > > > three point suspension does nothing to isolate the assembly from > > > mechanical distortions in the rotating base. > > > Re "flimsiness"... > > > What does your Rube Golberg XYZ interferometer offer that the > > following vastly simpler, far easier-to-implement design does not? > > > | | | > > | | | > > |========== | | > > laser | | | > > | | | > > target beam splitter mirror > > > Instead of your precarious vertical arrangement of components, > > all of the components can be solidly mounted on a rigid optical > > bench. > > > All other considerations apply. The axis of rotation must be > > as nearly perfectly vertical as possible, and the optical bench > > must be mechanically isolated from the rotating base. > > >Jerry > > DearJerry: A straight out-and-back instrument has two light courses > which don't vary. Such won't detect any fringe shifts regardless of > the direction it is pointing relative to the Earth's velocity vector. Are you willing to test that assertion using YOUR apparatus? A few hours of work, and you can rearrange your optical components and actually test whether you can achieve a null result using your rickety, unstable, shakey, unleveled, poorly engineered mounting. I say you won't get a null result, proving your experimental arrangement to be defective. Jerry |