From: BURT on 30 May 2010 16:35 On May 30, 1:28 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > On May 30, 6:41 am, Spirit <truthtot...(a)prodigy.net> wrote: > > > The worm in Einstein's apple is the addition of velocity. It is not > > correct for this universe of ours. > > You are digging at the wrong grave. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_ether_theory > > Einstein/Minkowski: > << the four-dimensional space-time continuum of the > theory of relativity, in its most essential formal > properties, shows a pronounced relationship to the > three-dimensional continuum of Euclidean geometrical space. > In order to give due prominence to this relationship, > however, we must replace the usual time co-ordinate t by > an imaginary magnitude > > sqrt(-1) > > ct proportional to it. Under these conditions, the > natural laws satisfying the demands of the (special) > theory of relativity assume mathematical forms, in which > the time co-ordinate plays exactly the same rôle as > the three space co-ordinates. >>http://www.bartleby.com/173/17.html > > > > > An exterior at rest Observer has to hold a moving object still to > > observe a motion in that moving object, or you may conceive that the > > Observer also moves with the moving object he is observing and that > > from that viewpoint both are at rest and not moving. > > > The moving object and the exterior at rest Observer are thus both at > > rest with regard to the motion observed in the preciously conceived of > > moving object. > > > Thus no time dilation, no length contraction, no lack of simultaneity, > > no time warps, wormholes or black holes. > > > The basis of SR and much else is thus nullified. > > No the basis of modern SR is GR and thus far it is a > fair approximation for a quantitative formalism. > > << Today the "special theory" exists only, aside from its > historical importance, as a convenient set of widely > applicable formulas for important limiting cases of the > general theory, but the epistemological foundation of those > formulas must be sought in the context of the general theory.>>http://www..mathpages.com/rr/s4-07/4-07.htm > > Relativity and electromagnetismhttp://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node106.html > > > > > In a universe such as this, where there is a speed limit, velocity is > > only computable to one order of event/magnitude. > > > Spirit > > > Copyright Spirit of Truth May 30th, 2010 > > Oops! Google's software copied your posting so send > your lawyers to them. I didn't do it. :-)) > > Sue... If you asked an Olympic runner if he didn't move but it was the ground that won him the race what do you think he'd say? Relative motion is an appearence created by real motion through space. The relative appearence is always in the opposite direction and it slows down in the distance. All of which went unnoticed by Albert Einstein when he made his claim the all motion is relative. Mitch Raemsch
From: Sue... on 30 May 2010 16:52 On May 30, 4:35 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On May 30, 1:28 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > > On May 30, 6:41 am, Spirit <truthtot...(a)prodigy.net> wrote: > > > > The worm in Einstein's apple is the addition of velocity. It is not > > > correct for this universe of ours. > > > You are digging at the wrong grave. > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_ether_theory > > > Einstein/Minkowski: > > << the four-dimensional space-time continuum of the > > theory of relativity, in its most essential formal > > properties, shows a pronounced relationship to the > > three-dimensional continuum of Euclidean geometrical space. > > In order to give due prominence to this relationship, > > however, we must replace the usual time co-ordinate t by > > an imaginary magnitude > > > sqrt(-1) > > > ct proportional to it. Under these conditions, the > > natural laws satisfying the demands of the (special) > > theory of relativity assume mathematical forms, in which > > the time co-ordinate plays exactly the same rôle as > > the three space co-ordinates. >> http://www.bartleby.com/173/17.html > > > > An exterior at rest Observer has to hold a moving object still to > > > observe a motion in that moving object, or you may conceive that the > > > Observer also moves with the moving object he is observing and that > > > from that viewpoint both are at rest and not moving. > > > > The moving object and the exterior at rest Observer are thus both at > > > rest with regard to the motion observed in the preciously conceived of > > > moving object. > > > > Thus no time dilation, no length contraction, no lack of simultaneity, > > > no time warps, wormholes or black holes. > > > > The basis of SR and much else is thus nullified. > > > No the basis of modern SR is GR and thus far it is a > > fair approximation for a quantitative formalism. > > > << Today the "special theory" exists only, aside from its > > historical importance, as a convenient set of widely > > applicable formulas for important limiting cases of the > > general theory, but the epistemological foundation of those > > formulas must be sought in the context of the general theory.>> http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s4-07/4-07.htm > > > Relativity and electromagnetism http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node106.html > > > > In a universe such as this, where there is a speed limit, velocity is > > > only computable to one order of event/magnitude. > > > > Spirit > > > > Copyright Spirit of Truth May 30th, 2010 > > > Oops! Google's software copied your posting so send > > your lawyers to them. I didn't do it. :-)) > > > Sue... > > If you asked an Olympic runner if he didn't move but it was the ground > that won him the race what do you think he'd say? He would say the question was composed by an idiot. But that is not the main reason I would never ask it. Olympic runners don't associate with peons in the field of science so the opportunity would never arise. > > Relative motion is an appearence created by real motion through space. > The relative appearence is always in the opposite direction and it > slows down in the distance. All of which went unnoticed by Albert > Einstein when he made his claim the all motion is relative. Well that notion should be a great source of comfort if you ever see the stars spinning overhead at about 10,000 rpm. You will know it is purely an illusion that your arms are separating from your shoulders. :-)) Sue... > > Mitch Raemsch
From: BURT on 30 May 2010 18:13 On May 30, 1:52 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > On May 30, 4:35 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > On May 30, 1:28 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > On May 30, 6:41 am, Spirit <truthtot...(a)prodigy.net> wrote: > > > > > The worm in Einstein's apple is the addition of velocity. It is not > > > > correct for this universe of ours. > > > > You are digging at the wrong grave. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_ether_theory > > > > > > > > > > Einstein/Minkowski: > > > << the four-dimensional space-time continuum of the > > > theory of relativity, in its most essential formal > > > properties, shows a pronounced relationship to the > > > three-dimensional continuum of Euclidean geometrical space. > > > In order to give due prominence to this relationship, > > > however, we must replace the usual time co-ordinate t by > > > an imaginary magnitude > > > > sqrt(-1) > > > > ct proportional to it. Under these conditions, the > > > natural laws satisfying the demands of the (special) > > > theory of relativity assume mathematical forms, in which > > > the time co-ordinate plays exactly the same rôle as > > > the three space co-ordinates. >> > > http://www.bartleby.com/173/17.html > > > > > > > > > > > An exterior at rest Observer has to hold a moving object still to > > > > observe a motion in that moving object, or you may conceive that the > > > > Observer also moves with the moving object he is observing and that > > > > from that viewpoint both are at rest and not moving. > > > > > The moving object and the exterior at rest Observer are thus both at > > > > rest with regard to the motion observed in the preciously conceived of > > > > moving object. > > > > > Thus no time dilation, no length contraction, no lack of simultaneity, > > > > no time warps, wormholes or black holes. > > > > > The basis of SR and much else is thus nullified. > > > > No the basis of modern SR is GR and thus far it is a > > > fair approximation for a quantitative formalism. > > > > << Today the "special theory" exists only, aside from its > > > historical importance, as a convenient set of widely > > > applicable formulas for important limiting cases of the > > > general theory, but the epistemological foundation of those > > > formulas must be sought in the context of the general theory.>> > > http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s4-07/4-07.htm > > > > > > Relativity and electromagnetism > > http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node106.html > > > > > > > In a universe such as this, where there is a speed limit, velocity is > > > > only computable to one order of event/magnitude. > > > > > Spirit > > > > > Copyright Spirit of Truth May 30th, 2010 > > > > Oops! Google's software copied your posting so send > > > your lawyers to them. I didn't do it. :-)) > > > > Sue... > > > If you asked an Olympic runner if he didn't move but it was the ground > > that won him the race what do you think he'd say? > > He would say the question was composed by an idiot. > But that is not the main reason I would never ask it. > Olympic runners don't associate with peons in the field > of science so the opportunity would never arise. > > > > > Relative motion is an appearence created by real motion through space. > > The relative appearence is always in the opposite direction and it > > slows down in the distance. All of which went unnoticed by Albert > > Einstein when he made his claim the all motion is relative. > > Well that notion should be a great source of comfort > if you ever see the stars spinning overhead at about > 10,000 rpm. You will know it is purely an illusion > that your arms are separating from your shoulders. :-)) > > Sue... > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Please Sue Don't go into denial. Does the olympic racer move his body or not? Relativity says you can see the ground did it. And you know this is complete nonsense in every way. Just look at relative motion around you when you begin to move. The fact that it is in the opposite direction and shrinks into the distance shows that Einstein was not at all objective to relative motion and this needs to be pointed out. The theory of Relativity is the appearence of energy flowing through space in the opposite direction to energy's real motion. Matter appears to move when it does not. That state of appearence comes around energy that really moves through space Mitch Raemsch
From: Sue... on 30 May 2010 18:42 On May 30, 6:13 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: [...] > > Please Sue Don't go into denial. > > Does the olympic racer move his body or not? > Relativity says you can see the ground did it. OK Thank you. I will take my computer to the shop to get its cut-n-paster checked out. No point discussing character strings which say are distorted. Sue...
From: BURT on 30 May 2010 18:45 On May 30, 3:42 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > On May 30, 6:13 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > [...] > > > > > Please Sue Don't go into denial. > > > Does the olympic racer move his body or not? > > Relativity says you can see the ground did it. > > OK Thank you. I will take my computer to the > shop to get its cut-n-paster checked out. > No point discussing character strings which > say are distorted. > > Sue... This problem is Googles problem. Why would they leave it like that? This unreadability all of the time is nonsense. When will Google correct the problem is what I want to know. Mitch Raemsch
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