Electrons ALL emit packets of energy just like photons, but much smaller scale.
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From: john on 27 Feb 2010 11:39 On Feb 26, 12:32 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 26, 10:49 am, john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 25, 3:31 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 25, 10:00 am, john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote: > > > > > What do we call these tiny photon-like packets of energy > > > > coming off every electron? > > > > Nanophotons? > > > > I think they have already been named: > > > > > Magnetons. > > > > > john > > > >- I know you believe everything that exists is made of smaller pieces, > > > -but it is useful to characterize them in a way that distinguishes them > > > -from the assembly and you haven't done that here. As far as anyone can > > > -tell from what you've written, you're only talking about smaller > > > -photons. Small dogs are still dogs, they're not pieces of bigger dogs. > > > OK, let's call them magnetons. > > Why call smaller photons magnetons? When do they cease becoming > describable as photons and start becoming describable as magnetons? Because you suggested that there be a way to differentiate them from regular photons? A harmonic that is generated in something when a note is played is not the same note, is it? They are not regular photons. They are miniatures. Regular photons pour out from stars in all directions at c. Magnetons pour out from the orts of electrons in all directions at ~30c. john
From: bert on 27 Feb 2010 11:43 On Feb 27, 2:28 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 27, 8:33 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 26, 9:35 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 25, 6:00 pm, john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote: > > > > > What do we call these tiny photon-like packets of energy > > > > coming off every electron? > > > > Nanophotons? > > > > I think they have already been named: > > > > > Magnetons. > > > > > john > > > > see my thread > > > 'A new corrected definition for a ' real single photon' energy > > > emission > > > > it is > > > ======================= > > > E single photon = n hf > > > while > > > 0 < n <<<< 1.0000 > > > ======================= > > > ATB > > > Y.Porat > > > ------------------------ > > > Set H bar to zero and the energy of light is all in its frequency. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > -------------------------- > frequency is a scalar associated with time > > therefore frequency in itself is > time duratiion dependent > or if you like -- > the number of wave lengths per second > > if you want to say that f is defining > th e ***amount** of energy > then i am with you!! > you must be more accurate .... > > ATB > Y.Porat > --------------------- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - My electron being a structure made of photons is more,and more accepted. Naturally its cloud structure is both virtual photons and the ones in the macro realm. It all fits So when do I pick up my Nobel? oi ya trebert
From: PD on 27 Feb 2010 11:54 On Feb 27, 10:39 am, john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote: > On Feb 26, 12:32 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 26, 10:49 am, john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote: > > > > On Feb 25, 3:31 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 25, 10:00 am, john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote: > > > > > > What do we call these tiny photon-like packets of energy > > > > > coming off every electron? > > > > > Nanophotons? > > > > > I think they have already been named: > > > > > > Magnetons. > > > > > > john > > > > >- I know you believe everything that exists is made of smaller pieces, > > > > -but it is useful to characterize them in a way that distinguishes them > > > > -from the assembly and you haven't done that here. As far as anyone can > > > > -tell from what you've written, you're only talking about smaller > > > > -photons. Small dogs are still dogs, they're not pieces of bigger dogs. > > > > OK, let's call them magnetons. > > > Why call smaller photons magnetons? When do they cease becoming > > describable as photons and start becoming describable as magnetons? > > Because you suggested that > there be a way to differentiate > them from regular photons? So what is the measurable feature that distinguishes a photon from a magneton. > > A harmonic that is generated in > something when a note is > played is not the same note, is it? They are both notes, if you define a note as being a sound frequency. When you play a piano key, you generate lots of notes. One of those notes happens to dominate the intensity and is called the fundamental (note) and the other notes are called the harmonics (notes), but they are all notes. > > They are not regular photons. > They are miniatures. > > Regular photons pour out from stars in all directions at c. > > Magnetons pour out from the orts of electrons in > all directions at ~30c. And how did you come up with that ~30c? And is it measurable? Under what circumstances? > > john
From: john on 28 Feb 2010 00:54 On Feb 27, 10:54 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 27, 10:39 am, john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 26, 12:32 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 26, 10:49 am, john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 25, 3:31 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 25, 10:00 am, john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote: > > > > > > > What do we call these tiny photon-like packets of energy > > > > > > coming off every electron? > > > > > > Nanophotons? > > > > > > I think they have already been named: > > > > > > > Magnetons. > > > > > > > john > > > > > >- I know you believe everything that exists is made of smaller pieces, > > > > > -but it is useful to characterize them in a way that distinguishes them > > > > > -from the assembly and you haven't done that here. As far as anyone can > > > > > -tell from what you've written, you're only talking about smaller > > > > > -photons. Small dogs are still dogs, they're not pieces of bigger dogs. > > > > > OK, let's call them magnetons. > > > > Why call smaller photons magnetons? When do they cease becoming > > > describable as photons and start becoming describable as magnetons? > > > Because you suggested that > > there be a way to differentiate > > them from regular photons? > > So what is the measurable feature that distinguishes a photon from a > magneton. > > > > > A harmonic that is generated in > > something when a note is > > played is not the same note, is it? > > They are both notes, if you define a note as being a sound frequency. > When you play a piano key, you generate lots of notes. One of those > notes happens to dominate the intensity and is called the fundamental > (note) and the other notes are called the harmonics (notes), but they > are all notes. > > > > > They are not regular photons. > > They are miniatures. > > > Regular photons pour out from stars in all directions at c. > > > Magnetons pour out from the orts of electrons in > > all directions at ~30c. > > And how did you come up with that ~30c? And is it measurable? Under > what circumstances? > > > > > john
From: john on 28 Feb 2010 01:25
On Feb 27, 10:54 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 27, 10:39 am, john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 26, 12:32 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 26, 10:49 am, john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 25, 3:31 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 25, 10:00 am, john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote: > > > > > > > What do we call these tiny photon-like packets of energy > > > > > > coming off every electron? > > > > > > Nanophotons? > > > > > > I think they have already been named: > > > > > > > Magnetons. > > > > > > > john > > > > > >- I know you believe everything that exists is made of smaller pieces, > > > > > -but it is useful to characterize them in a way that distinguishes them > > > > > -from the assembly and you haven't done that here. As far as anyone can > > > > > -tell from what you've written, you're only talking about smaller > > > > > -photons. Small dogs are still dogs, they're not pieces of bigger dogs. > > > > > OK, let's call them magnetons. > > > > Why call smaller photons magnetons? When do they cease becoming > > > describable as photons and start becoming describable as magnetons? > > > Because you suggested that > > there be a way to differentiate > > them from regular photons? > > So what is the measurable feature that distinguishes a photon from a > magneton. Scale. Photons are put out by the stars in the arms of galaxies. Magnetons are put out by the orts in electrons. > > A harmonic that is generated in > > something when a note is > > played is not the same note, is it? > > They are both notes, if you define a note as being a sound frequency. > When you play a piano key, you generate lots of notes. One of those > notes happens to dominate the intensity and is called the fundamental > (note) and the other notes are called the harmonics (notes), but they > are all notes. But they come from different scales. If I play middle C on the piano, and then I play high C, and I tell you these are the same note, but also different notes, I'm right on both counts. > > > > They are not regular photons. > > They are miniatures. > > > Regular photons pour out from stars in all directions at c. > > > Magnetons pour out from the orts of electrons in > > all directions at ~30c. > > And how did you come up with that ~30c? And is it measurable? Under > what circumstances? Because of the evidence I have seen that quasars go almost 10,000 kilometers per second. I am equating atoms with galaxies. So to what does a photon equate? To quasars. The accretion discs grow until they shoot two quasars away, one in each direction. An excited atom shoots two photons away in opposite directions. So quasars 10,000km/sec. Photons 300,000km/sec. Magnetons 9,000,000km/sec john |