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From: mpc755 on 7 Aug 2010 22:03 On Aug 7, 5:19 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Aug 7, 7:45 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 6, 11:11 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Aug 6, 6:10 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 6, 6:15 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > But there is reason to doubt the Dark matter physics they are using. > > > > > It has never been identified and we can't find it then there certainly > > > > > is. > > > > > Please prove the existence of Dark matter first. If it is most of the > > > > > universe and is gravitationally bound you could never get it all to > > > > > the outside. In other words the biggest proof that it doesn't exist is > > > > > that we can't find it on Earth. It can't leak out of the Earth because > > > > > it is gravitationally bound. > > > > > We 'find' dark matter on Earth every time a double slit experiment is > > > > performed. If you are unable to understand the observed behaviors in a > > > > double slit experiment are due to the particle having an associated > > > > dark matter displacement wave then that is your issue, not the physics > > > > of nature. > > > > > A moving particle has an associated dark matter displacement wave. The > > > > particle enters and exits a single slit. The associated dark matter > > > > displacement wave enters and exits multiple slits. The dark matter > > > > displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the slit which > > > > alters the direction the particle travels. Detecting the particle > > > > causes decoherence of the associated dark matter displacement wave > > > > (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference. > > > > > Simply because you are unable to understand the observed behaviors in > > > > a double slit experiment are because of dark matter does not mean dark > > > > matter does not exist. > > > > > > Dark matter is not needed to solve the problem of the fast outer stars > > > > > of galaxies. There is something better. It is no prefered scale of > > > > > expansion of the universe driving galactic evolution. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > What part of 'Hubble finds dark matter' are you unable to understand? > > > > > 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur... > > > > > "Astronomers using NASAs Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view > > > > of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two > > > > galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is > > > > somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the > > > > water." > > > > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' > > > > A. EINSTEINhttp://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > > > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > > > > diminishes by L/c2." > > > > > Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The > > > > mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists > > > > as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter. > > > > As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional > > > > space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring > > > > dark matter and matter is energy. > > > > > Mass is conserved. > > > > If dark matter is gravitationally bound to matter since the beginning > > > how can one seperate from the other and then stay outside? > > > Dark matter is not gravitationally bound to matter. > > The jig is up. Dark matter's gravity on matter is the purpose of its > very use. Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. Dark matter is displaced by matter. Dark matter is not at rest when displaced. Dark matter displaced by matter exerts pressure towards the matter. Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter exerted towards matter is gravity. > But you misuse everything and now it is time to become intellectually > honest about the science you use. Dark matter is not needed since the > expansion of the universe effects the gravitational field distance > over time. > 'Mysterious Cosmic 'Dark Flow' Tracked Deeper into Universe' http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/releases/2010/10-023.html 'The clusters appear to be moving along a line extending from our solar system toward Centaurus/Hydra, but the direction of this motion is less certain. Evidence indicates that the clusters are headed outward along this path, away from Earth, but the team cannot yet rule out the opposite flow. "We detect motion along this axis, but right now our data cannot state as strongly as we'd like whether the clusters are coming or going," Kashlinsky said.' The clusters are headed along this path because the Universe is, or the local Universe we exist in is, a jet stream. Analogous to the jet stream of a black hole. The following is an image of a jet stream: http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html The reason for the expansion of the universe is the continual emission of dark matter into the 'Universal' jet stream. In the image above, '1st Stars' is where the conditions enable dark matter to be compressed into matter. 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' A. EINSTEIN http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2." Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter. As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring dark matter and matter is energy. Mass is conserved.
From: BURT on 7 Aug 2010 22:10 On Aug 7, 6:58 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Aug 7, 12:32 pm, bert <herbertglazie...(a)msn.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 6, 3:46 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Aug 6, 2:46 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 6, 4:03 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > The ripple is 'seen' because it displaces the light traveling from the > > > > > far distant galaxies. > > > > > > Evidence of dark matter displacement: > > > > > > 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter' > > > >http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur... > > > > > > "Astronomers using NASAs Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view > > > > > of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two > > > > > galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is > > > > > somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the > > > > > water." > > > > > How do you know what you are seeing? > > > > I challenge that you are not seeing what you say you are. > > > > If it has never been identified how do you know that? > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > I see no reason to doubt the astronomers. > > > > The ripple is 'seen' because it displaces the light traveling from the > > > far distant galaxies. > > > > Evidence of dark matter displacement: > > > > 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur... > > > > "Astronomers using NASAs Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view > > > of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two > > > galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is > > > somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the > > > water." > > > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' > > > A. EINSTEINhttp://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > > > diminishes by L/c2." > > > > Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The > > > mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists > > > as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter.. > > > As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional > > > space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring > > > dark matter and matter is energy. > > > > Mass is conserved.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > My "Spin is in theory" tells this. Energy spinning in place in the > > micro realm creates matter particles Take the electron its structure > > is spinning at c photons Get the picture TreBert > > Matter is compressed dark matter and dark matter is uncompressed > matter. It could very well be spin which allows dark matter to be > compressed into matter.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - There's no spin on this. Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 7 Aug 2010 22:10 On Aug 7, 10:01 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Aug 7, 6:56 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 7, 1:55 pm, Paul Stowe <theaether...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Aug 3, 3:34 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' > > > > A. EINSTEINhttp://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > > > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > > > > diminishes by L/c2." > > > > > Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The > > > > mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists > > > > as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter. > > > > As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional > > > > space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring > > > > dark matter and matter is energy. > > > > I'll bottom line it. In a primal aether model there is no 'Dark > > > Matter' or matter (as thought of as ponderable), there is only > > > patterns of energy in the form of Skyrmions and other fluidic > > > structures. The only property of 'matter' that matters, namely > > > inertia, and the inertial response, is an emergent artifact of changes > > > in these fluidic field states. The key to the universe is frequencies > > > and vorticity, nothing more. You ramble on & on & on & on about > > > fluff, I've seen no mathematical substance to quantify anything you > > > say. > > > > Paul Stowe > > > The only property of matter that matters, is mass. You don't get a > > fluidic 'field' state without mass, The key to the universe is mass, > > nothing more. I've seen no material substance to quantify anything you > > say without mass. > > > 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter' > http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_feature.html > > > "Astronomers using NASAs Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view > > of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two > > galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is > > somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the > > water." > > > What ripples? Dark matter ripples. The cause which allows dark matter > > to ripple is mass. > > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' > > A. EINSTEINhttp://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > > diminishes by L/c2." > > > Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The > > mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists > > as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter. > > As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional > > space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring > > dark matter and matter is energy. > > > Mass is conserved.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > New energy means science's very first principle is advancing beyond. > Science is young and to me ancient. It cannot yet believe that it > knows hardly anything. Give it a million years or more and then ask > it how close it is to representing reality. Because it doesn't as of > today. > Dark Matter Displacement is the most correct unified theory to date. A moving particle has an associated dark matter displacement wave. The particle enters and exits a single slit. The associated dark matter displacement wave enters and exits multiple slits. The dark matter displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which causes the direction the particle travels to alter. Detecting the particle causes decoherence of the associated dark matter displacement wave and there is no interference. Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. Dark matter is displaced by matter. Dark matter is not at rest when displaced. Dark matter displaced by matter exerts pressure towards the matter. Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity. 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' A. EINSTEIN http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2." Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter. As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring dark matter and matter is energy. Mass is conserved.
From: mpc755 on 7 Aug 2010 22:13 On Aug 7, 10:10 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Aug 7, 6:58 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > My "Spin is in theory" tells this. Energy spinning in place in the > > > micro realm creates matter particles Take the electron its structure > > > is spinning at c photons Get the picture TreBert > > > Matter is compressed dark matter and dark matter is uncompressed > > matter. It could very well be spin which allows dark matter to be > > compressed into matter.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > There's no spin on this. > The cause which conditions dark matter's state which allows it to convert into and maintain its compressed state as matter, could be spin. Dark Matter Displacement is the most correct unified theory to date. A moving particle has an associated dark matter displacement wave. The particle enters and exits a single slit. The associated dark matter displacement wave enters and exits multiple slits. The dark matter displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which causes the direction the particle travels to alter. Detecting the particle causes decoherence of the associated dark matter displacement wave and there is no interference. Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. Dark matter is displaced by matter. Dark matter is not at rest when displaced. Dark matter displaced by matter exerts pressure towards the matter. Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity. 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' A. EINSTEIN http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2." Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter. As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring dark matter and matter is energy. Mass is conserved.
From: BURT on 7 Aug 2010 22:16
On Aug 7, 7:10 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Aug 7, 10:01 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 7, 6:56 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Aug 7, 1:55 pm, Paul Stowe <theaether...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 3, 3:34 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' > > > > > A. EINSTEINhttp://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > > > > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > > > > > diminishes by L/c2." > > > > > > Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The > > > > > mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists > > > > > as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter. > > > > > As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional > > > > > space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring > > > > > dark matter and matter is energy. > > > > > I'll bottom line it. In a primal aether model there is no 'Dark > > > > Matter' or matter (as thought of as ponderable), there is only > > > > patterns of energy in the form of Skyrmions and other fluidic > > > > structures. The only property of 'matter' that matters, namely > > > > inertia, and the inertial response, is an emergent artifact of changes > > > > in these fluidic field states. The key to the universe is frequencies > > > > and vorticity, nothing more. You ramble on & on & on & on about > > > > fluff, I've seen no mathematical substance to quantify anything you > > > > say. > > > > > Paul Stowe > > > > The only property of matter that matters, is mass. You don't get a > > > fluidic 'field' state without mass, The key to the universe is mass, > > > nothing more. I've seen no material substance to quantify anything you > > > say without mass. > > > > 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter' > >http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur... > > > > "Astronomers using NASAs Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view > > > of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two > > > galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is > > > somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the > > > water." > > > > What ripples? Dark matter ripples. The cause which allows dark matter > > > to ripple is mass. > > > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' > > > A. EINSTEINhttp://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > > > diminishes by L/c2." > > > > Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The > > > mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists > > > as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter.. > > > As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional > > > space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring > > > dark matter and matter is energy. > > > > Mass is conserved.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > New energy means science's very first principle is advancing beyond. > > Science is young and to me ancient. It cannot yet believe that it > > knows hardly anything. Give it a million years or more and then ask > > it how close it is to representing reality. Because it doesn't as of > > today. > > Dark Matter Displacement is the most correct unified theory to date. > > A moving particle has an associated dark matter displacement wave. The > particle enters and exits a single slit. The associated dark matter > displacement wave enters and exits multiple slits. The dark matter > displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which > causes the direction the particle travels to alter. Detecting the > particle causes decoherence of the associated dark matter displacement > wave and there is no interference. > > Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. > Dark matter is displaced by matter. > Dark matter is not at rest when displaced. > Dark matter displaced by matter exerts pressure towards the matter. > Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity. > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' > A. EINSTEINhttp://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > diminishes by L/c2." > > Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The > mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists > as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter. > As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional > space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring > dark matter and matter is energy. > > Mass is conserved.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Religion, science and really everything are quite young. I look forward to a future; the right people's future. Good religion against bad. Good scientsists against bad. The argument for both right in science and religion that will come together has been made mpc755. Mitch Raemsch |