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From: Henning on 7 Jun 2010 13:55 "mp" <nospam(a)thanks.com> skrev i meddelandet news:uzyH4BmBLHA.4584(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > "dpb" <none(a)non.net> wrote in message > news:huc63h$fnl$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> mp wrote: >>> so I thought "everyone" was moving over to comp.lang.basic.visual.misc >>> why are these threads here...why is the group still here for that >>> matter...as they're dropping like flys >>> and why am i only seeing one or two posts a day over on es >>> comp.lang.basic.visual.misc >>> did i get the group name wrong? >> ... >> Most everybody is still watching m.p.vb.g.d altho they may have already >> stopped using the ms news servers to do so. >> >> Since usenet/nntp is a distributed protocol, it doesn't rely on a single >> server so (as noted elsewhere) as long as the other mirror newsservers >> don't honor a "removegroup" request, the group will still be mirrored on >> their servers and all that has happened is that one (happens to be the >> original, but there is no hierarchy in usenet) server isn't around any >> more. >> >> clbvm was the proposed "drop dead" alternative if, indeed, it turned out >> that the other servers did honor a request and the groups did disappear >> but since that isn't happening, there's no need until (and big if) it >> ever does (which I personally doubt will happen). >> >> At some point when MS does pull the plug on mpvbgd on their server you >> will have to go to another server or acquiesce to the new regime, but >> merely switching servers is fairly trivial. >> >> -- > > But eternal september doesn't appear to be one of the servers mirroring > mpvbgd, right? > I dont' see it in their list of ngs > So one has to subscribe to one of the pay servers like giganews or > something similar, is that right? > mark > > Yes it is, replying from ES now. /Henning
From: Karl E. Peterson on 7 Jun 2010 13:58 Tony Toews [MVP] wrote: > "Henning" <computer_hero(a)coldmail.com> wrote: > >> Ha, I'll hold you responsible for an hour of lost work by them links;) Just >> couldn't stop reading... > > Hehehehe Well said. Well, Microsoft made my point for me! I've been saying all along that this entire move is due to their desire for *TOTAL CONTROL* over the message. I crawled and inched my way right up to the edge, before pushing them over. <eg> Turns out that when I mentioned I had been kicked out of the MVP program by an Executive of higher rank than had ever kicked anyone else out of the MVP program, they *locked* the thread! <LOL!!!> It was this post, that sealed the deal: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vbgeneral/thread/ba2234f8-cc2f-41c8-8c1f-551558023c3e#8f1ad7a7-be6f-4c73-b46b-f3c3f5a201ef -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org Customer Hatred Knows No Bounds at MSFT ClassicVB Users Regroup! comp.lang.basic.visual.misc Free usenet access at http://www.eternal-september.org
From: Karl E. Peterson on 7 Jun 2010 14:02 mp wrote: > so I thought "everyone" was moving over to comp.lang.basic.visual.misc > why are these threads here... Everything in its time. At the moment, it's more fun tormenting our tormentors. Example: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vbgeneral/thread/6515abe0-dc14-422d-bc5a-8afe13f888b4 -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org Customer Hatred Knows No Bounds at MSFT ClassicVB Users Regroup! comp.lang.basic.visual.misc Free usenet access at http://www.eternal-september.org
From: Karl E. Peterson on 7 Jun 2010 14:04 Larry Serflaten wrote: > "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote > >> Boy, I've been over there, looked, and am still shaking! <chuckle> >> It's just *nutz* I tell ya. Examples: > > It is pretty clear what their intentions are. We saw the 'invites' from > nntp(a)microsoft direct people to the VB.general forum, where that forum > says VB6 questions are not to be posted. Now, the portal page that 'Beth' > was to update _includes_ a Visual Basic 6 link! > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/forums/default.mspx > > You get one guess where that link takes you.... > > <lol> > LFS Yeah, Beth is a great gal, I tell ya! But she's not able to really effect meaningful change with Customer Support Services. They've *had* it with us, it seems. I'm going to continue accepting their generous invitation, however, until it ceases to be entertaining. <eg> -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org Customer Hatred Knows No Bounds at MSFT ClassicVB Users Regroup! comp.lang.basic.visual.misc Free usenet access at http://www.eternal-september.org
From: Mayayana on 7 Jun 2010 16:55
-- | | But eternal september doesn't appear to be one of the servers mirroring | mpvbgd, right? | I dont' see it in their list of ngs You have to sign up, open an account, then configure your newsreader to connect to their server. Once you've set up an ES account in your newsreader you should be able to download the list of newsgroups. As far as I can see that includes all of the MS groups plus alt, comp, etc. |