From: Arindam Banerjee on
On Jan 19, 6:09 pm, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > On Jan 19, 1:40 pm, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> >> > That *only* monkeys of various sorts are around to defend the crappy
> >> > ideas of einstein, is most revealing!
>
> >> > I hope and believe that sooner or later taxpayers will note this evil
> >> > and disastrous fraud of relativity, which has lasted far too long.
> >> > And I further hope and believe that the young and uncorrupted minds
> >> > (13+ kids) will understand, take up and develop sound engineering
> >> > based upon my new physics.
>
> >> > Cheers,
>
> >> > Arindam Banerjee
>
> >> What makes you think you are aaany different from the the current batch
> >> of morons who think relativity is wrong for many - always different -
> >> reasons?
>
> > My points are brief and invincible, as evident.  Detractors like you,
> > thus, necessarily have to behave like monkeys.
> > Had their been any honesty left among the corrupt and degraded Western
> > elites, I would have been given the Nobel Prize in Physics very long
> > ago.
> > Cheers,
> > Arindam Banerjee
>
> What, you think you are special because you failed to understand Einstein's
> presentation of relativity?

No, I am special because I have proved that his position based upon
the correctness of the first postulate is wrong.

> Relativity is SO(3,1) + Maxwell's equations. Done.

Heh-heh, and What Rubbish. Relativity is based upon the invariance of
the speed of light, with respect to the emitter. Without this (the
first postulate) nothing further such as e=mcc, etc. can be derived.
This is evident in all the standard texts which you and your kind seem
happy to ignore, coming up with hand-waving one-liners instead.
Still, what else can be done, now that I have pinpointed what bullshit
the whole thing is?

To repeat myself for the n'th time:
1. The Earth moves around the Sun
2. Because of the above, the light has to travel a greater or lesser
distance than any measured distance. (Note: This is my original and
most subtle point, which outs the whole construction of relativity,
and had there been any ounce of fairness in the corrupt and degraded
western elite, I should long ago have got the Nobel Prize in Physics
for pointing this out)
3. Because nulls are found from the MMI experiment, showing equal time
of travel in all directions for the same *measured* scalar lengths
travelled (from above, the actual lengths travelled are different),
the velocity of light *has* to be correspondingly greater or smaller,
depending upon the direction of travel. Thus light going straight in
front has speed c+v, going back is c-v, going sideways at right angles
is c, and so on. Details are given in
http://adda-enterprises.com/MMInt/MMInt.htm
4. Because of 3 (light has to be greater or lesser than c, depending
upon v the emitting source's velocity) the first postulate of Einstein
is wrong.
5. So, e=mcc and other weird stuff light matter being extremely short
or heavy at near-ligjht speeds, is total bunkum. The whole thing is
blown away, like a bad dream. All that modern physics now amounts to,
is an extreme embarrassment.

Note: The 5 points noted above are perfectly self-consistent. I do
expect a talented 13+ year old to understand all that, and so the
younger generation is my best hope. From the corrupt, motivated,
cowardly and degraded bunch of institutionalised creeps, I expect no
support.

Not one crank on here has
> actually sat down and said how their 'arguments' against Einstein's
> derivation manage to hold in the group theory definition of SR which is the
> one that is ACTUALLY USED.

Typical einsteinian gobbledygook. Anyone with the slightest knowledge
about the derivation of e=mcc can see through your deliberate
dishonesty.

Hoping (probably in vain) that you will grow up to be something
straight,

Arindam Banerjee


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From: eric gisse on
Arindam Banerjee wrote:


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>> What, you think you are special because you failed to understand
>> Einstein's presentation of relativity?
>
> No, I am special because I have proved that his position based upon
> the correctness of the first postulate is wrong.
>
>> Relativity is SO(3,1) + Maxwell's equations. Done.
>
> Heh-heh, and What Rubbish. Relativity is based upon the invariance of
> the speed of light , with respect to the emitter. Without this (the
> first postulate) nothing further such as e=mcc, etc. can be derived.

SO(3,1) and Maxwell's equations. No principle of relativity needed. Oops.

Not that your argument regarding the PoR was correct in the first place, but
I find that this sidesteps your claims neatly.

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From: Zinnic on
On Jan 18, 5:02 pm, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
> That *only* monkeys of various sorts are around to defend the crappy
> ideas of einstein, is most revealing!
>
> I hope and believe that sooner or later taxpayers will note this evil
> and disastrous fraud of relativity, which has lasted far too long.
> And I further hope and believe that the young and uncorrupted minds
> (13+ kids) will understand, take up and develop sound engineering
> based upon my new physics.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Arindam Banerjee

The speed of propagation of sound (S) in a medium is independent of
the velocity (V) of the sound emittor. It is not (S + V) nor is it (S
- V), it remains at S. Now explain to a 13 + kid (and me) the
properties of the massless photon and space vacuum in your "new
physics" that ensure the propagation of light through space is
dependent on the velocity of the light emittor.
Zinnic
From: Arindam Banerjee on
On Jan 20, 12:25 am, Zinnic <zeenr...(a)gate.net> wrote:
> On Jan 18, 5:02 pm, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> > That *only* monkeys of various sorts are around to defend the crappy
> > ideas of einstein, is most revealing!
>
> > I hope and believe that sooner or later taxpayers will note this evil
> > and disastrous fraud of relativity, which has lasted far too long.
> > And I further hope and believe that the young and uncorrupted minds
> > (13+ kids) will understand, take up and develop sound engineering
> > based upon my new physics.
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > Arindam Banerjee
>
> The speed of propagation of sound (S) in a medium is independent of
> the velocity (V) of the sound emittor. It is not (S + V) nor is it (S
> - V), it remains at S.  

Firstly, we are talking about the speed of light, not sound. So this
is irrelevant, really. Still:

But have you heard of the Doppler effect for sound? One minute of
googling gave:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/Hbase/Sound/dopp.html

If you go through the site, you will find that the changes in
frequency (when a source is coming to you it has high frequency, when
it goes past you it has lower frequency) is caused by an effective
shortening in its wavelength. That is shown by v+v1 and v-v1, or
changes to the speed of sound. I do not agree with the analysis
there, so:

Let us go through the first principles.

frequency = velocity/wavelength

Let the velocity of sound (assuming that it increases with the speed
of emitter) be V+VS

When the emitter is coming at you, then, the sound velocity from the
emitter is V+VS. When it is going away, it is V - VS.

Then the frequency you hear when the sound is coming to you is

frequency_C = (V + VS)/wavelength = frequency + VS/wavelength - thus,
a higher frequency is now heard.

When the sound is going away from you, its speed towards you is less
and so

frequency_G = (V - VS)/wavelength = frequency - VS/wavelength - thus,
a lower frequency is now heard.

So what is the effective lengthening or shortening of the wavelength?
This is a concept which is valid only when we take the implicit and
tortuous position that the speed of sound is unchanged, and remains
invariant with the speed of the transmitter. Like what the
einsteinians are saying about light - nothing can exceed the speed of
light! In the days before faster than sound travel, they were howling
that dire consequences would happen if the sound barrier would be
exceeded. Simply because they were positing that wavelength actually
decreases (it does not, it only effectively decreases as the sound is
now rushing by the sink faster). So the formula you can see in the
site f" = f * v/(v - v") raised many questions - at v = v" the
frequency would be infiinite, things would shatter, etc. That was the
sound barrier, now comprehensively broken, every day! As the
einsteinian light barrier will be, in 20 years.

However, with the formulas you can see above, there is no question
whatsoever about the so-called and phony sound barrier.

In modern text books, the ruling einsteinians go all out to prove
invariance of not just light but also sound, so for sound there is
trickery involved in making it appear that the speed of sound is
invariant with the source, even though their formulas have to indicate
otherwise!

Yes, the Doppler effect was confusing to my daughter when she did
first year physics, so I explained it easily this way. Then advised
her to forget it, and write what was expected, if she wanted to pass.
As we all have to do...

Cheers.
Arindam Banerjee.





However, all this is irrelevant to my main points, which I repeat once
again:
1. The Earth is moving
2. All distances travelled by light are greater or lesser than the
measured distance, because the Earth is moving - a Nobel Prize winning
point!
3. Because the times involved for travel are the same in all
directions, the speed of light *has* to vary with the direction of its
travel. Or in other words, the speed of light is NOT invariant.
4. Because the first postulate of SR is the invariance of the speed of
light, when experiment proves that it actually is not invariant, the
whole structure of relativity and its consequent predictions (enormous
masses and zero length at light speeds) crumble to dust. With very
very very positive consequences for humanity and also other life forms
and objects on Earth (given sound and good political will and
direction).

Once this rubbish is removed, we can proceed to the new physics and
its underlying technology following the simple and intuitve and
correct relationship between mass and energy, that I derived from
first principles ten years ago. Which has been proven by experiment -
the lack of reaction in a rail gun.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee


Now explain to a 13 + kid  (and me) the
> properties of  the massless photon and space vacuum in your "new
> physics" that ensure  the propagation of light through space is
> dependent  on the velocity of the light emittor.
> Zinnic

From: tbj.blue on
On Jan 19, 6:25 pm, Zinnic <zeenr...(a)gate.net> wrote:
> On Jan 18, 5:02 pm, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> > That *only* monkeys of various sorts are around to defend the crappy
> > ideas of einstein, is most revealing!
>
> > I hope and believe that sooner or later taxpayers will note this evil
> > and disastrous fraud of relativity, which has lasted far too long.
> > And I further hope and believe that the young and uncorrupted minds
> > (13+ kids) will understand, take up and develop sound engineering
> > based upon my new physics.
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > Arindam Banerjee
>
> The speed of propagation of sound (S) in a medium is independent of
> the velocity (V) of the sound emittor. It is not (S + V) nor is it (S
> - V), it remains at S.   Now explain to a 13 + kid  (and me) the
> properties of  the massless photon and space vacuum in your "new
> physics" that ensure  the propagation of light through space is
> dependent  on the velocity of the light emittor.
> Zinnic

Not taking sides here, but light has corpuscular properties while
sound doesn't. There are no sound particles. Photons have momentum.
A particle would likely be affected by the speed of its transmitter
while a pure wave would likely not.