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From: Peter Webb on 6 Jun 2010 21:28 I've been in science long enough to know that disciples of schools of thought usually dig in their heels on whatever they decide. Before I say more, I'll say I need to review the whole field myself and evaluate it after that review. _______________________________________ While you are at it, you should review the evidence that the earth is not flat. Get back to us when you have reached a conclusion. However counter-intuitive it may be to you, the earth is basically round and objects at high relative speed behave as predicted by SR. But review the literature yourself and make your own decision.
From: Me, ...again! on 8 Jun 2010 17:18 On Wed, 9 Jun 2010, Peter Webb wrote: >> >> Since the controversy -- as I've demonstrated with two dozen books written >> in the last ten years--is ongoing, the only generous conclusion I can make >> is that science has failed to resolve the controversy decades after E/R >> came out. >> > > No, an Amazon book search does not say anything about the state of science. > Google non-fiction books about "angels" or "Atlantis" or "9/11" and see what > truth emerges. You might ask yourself, philosophically, why the term "non-fiction" is used instead of "fact" by the librarian population. > A disbelief in SR can very fairly be compared to a belief in a flat earth. I don't believe in a flat earth. > There are particle accelerators all over the world operating for 50+ years > that have accelerated particles to near light speed and measure these affects > on a huge scale every single day, and indeed would not operate without SR > being compensated for in the design, there is huge, compelling and > independent evidence from many other forms of experiment, astronomical > observation, satellite measurements, cosmic ray showers, blah blah blah ... fine. > That is why there is and can be no doubt as to the fact that the equations of > SR *exactly* model the Universe as we see it, and nobody physicist seriously > disbelieves it is true. > > > > >
From: Peter Webb on 15 Jun 2010 08:28 I am just interested to learn that there are more people than I thought who object to Einstein and Relativity. The booklist is larger than I thought.... ___________________________________ Its all relative. How do books claiming that Einstein's special theory of relativity is wrong compare in number to those which claim that angels are real, or that Atlantis existed, or that people of earth will be reborn in a rapture? Idiot.
From: Peter Webb on 15 Jun 2010 20:25 Among my list of "doubter" books (see below) is actully one by Einstein himself... ______________________________ What makes you think it is a book which "doubts" Relativity? The title seems to evoke the book "Dialog concerning two new sciences" by Galileo, which was not a "doubter" book at all. The title/author is located very near the bottom, and I put a row of "X" both before and after that entry. I hope more people realize I was including a "real expert" who appeared, based on the title, to be trying to respond--as an expert--to those who had _objections_. I was even thinking about buying that book and reading it over any of the other books. ______________________________ What, you were actually thinking of buying a book and learning some physics? I bet you don't. The only evidence that seems to matter to you is counts of books you have never read on Amazon; its hard to imagine you taking the effort to actually learn something about the subject you like to post on.
From: Peter Webb on 16 Jun 2010 09:04
>> >> http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Dialog_about_Objections_against_the_Theory_of_Relativity > > This looks like it would save me a lot of time since I'm sure it is much > shorter than the book (which I was thinking about buying). > > So, I may have a serious look at that URL. > > However, I wonder if there is a review monograph somewhere that does > address the objections fairly rather than dogmatically (remember, it is a > fact in academia that you will never get a research grant if you go > against the tide, even if the science is good; I have heard too many > stories). > I am also after a review monograph somewhere that addresses the objections fairly and not dogmatically to Atlantis and the Flat Earth theory. (Remember, it is a fact in academia that you will never get a research grant if you go against the tide, even if the science is good; I have heard too many stories). |