From: Dr J R Stockton on 20 Mar 2010 16:45 In comp.lang.javascript message <19abbdf4-8cb8-448c-afbe-d40388a1b4a8(a)x1 2g2000yqx.googlegroups.com>, Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:55:48, "Michael Haufe (\"TNO\")" <tno(a)thenewobjective.com> posted: >On Mar 18, 4:16�pm, Dr J R Stockton <reply1...(a)merlyn.demon.co.uk> >wrote: >> A <FAQENTRY> on <canvas> might be useful; or a FAQ Note. > >If that's the case, then why should VML/SVG be excluded? Suggesting inclusion of something does not imply suggesting the exclusion of something else. I don't know enough about either to comment. If any such (canvas included) are mentioned, a link to a small, but not trivial, example should be included - about a page of A4. -- (c) John Stockton, nr London, UK. ?@merlyn.demon.co.uk Turnpike v6.05 MIME. Web <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> - FAQqish topics, acronyms & links; Astro stuff via astron-1.htm, gravity0.htm ; quotings.htm, pascal.htm, etc. No Encoding. Quotes before replies. Snip well. Write clearly. Don't Mail News.
From: "Michael Haufe ("TNO")" on 20 Mar 2010 21:38 Dr J R Stockton wrote: > A <FAQENTRY> on <canvas> might be useful; or a FAQ Note. Michael Haufe wrote: > If that's the case, then why should VML/SVG be excluded? Dr J R Stockton wrote: > Suggesting inclusion of something does not imply suggesting the > exclusion of something else. I don't know enough about either to > comment. But it does imply the inclusion of the related topics. The point is that inclusion of VML/SVG would complicate the FAQ IMO, and HTML Canvas is the foot in the door. Dr J R Stockton wrote: > If any such (canvas included) are mentioned, a link to a small, but not > trivial, example should be included - about a page of A4. How about this? http://www.nihilogic.dk/labs/canvas_sheet/HTML5_Canvas_Cheat_Sheet.png
From: Joe D Williams on 21 Mar 2010 10:07 : FAOENTRY - canvas wrote >> For those who have not used a PostScript-like system before, why compare it to anything specific? Authors get a simple mostly semantic standards-track declarative XML conforming color, text, geometry, animation, and interaction language. It is basically a script(able) DOM element that runs to produce a new output each time the data changes. The thing turns out to be useful for a wide range of nD+1 applications in html documents. A clever author can roll their own tree or scenegraph and produce interactive networkable transactions using GPU, OGL/OCL/Dx, WebGL, X3D, and any nD data structures to show most anything you want, completely integrated in the html5 document. For simple and complex examples of some current connections available using our newly-beloved html5 canvas element, please see x3dom.org. Best Regards, Joe
From: Dr J R Stockton on 22 Mar 2010 14:12 In comp.lang.javascript message <a75ae4cf-c917-45fe-b233-9361be0d82d0(a)g2 8g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:38:59, "Michael Haufe (\"TNO\")" <tno(a)thenewobjective.com> posted: >Dr J R Stockton wrote: >> A <FAQENTRY> on <canvas> might be useful; or a FAQ Note. > >Michael Haufe wrote: >> If that's the case, then why should VML/SVG be excluded? > >Dr J R Stockton wrote: >> Suggesting inclusion of something does not imply suggesting the >> exclusion of something else. �I don't know enough about either to >> comment. > >But it does imply the inclusion of the related topics. The point is >that inclusion of VML/SVG would complicate the FAQ IMO, and HTML >Canvas is the foot in the door. The lack of ANY mention is a defect, if VML/SVG is/are as useful as canvas is. There is no call for embedding a tutorial in the FAQ, but a link or two would be worth their space. The FAQ, as an updating document, should briefly indicate the breadth of support in current and recent browsers. >Dr J R Stockton wrote: >> If any such (canvas included) are mentioned, a link to a small, but not >> trivial, example should be included - about a page of A4. > >How about this? >http://www.nihilogic.dk/labs/canvas_sheet/HTML5_Canvas_Cheat_Sheet.png It could be useful, if it could be read[*]. But it is not an example. The intention is to show by example what the language is like, not to teach by example. URL added to relevant page. [*] Font too small, even when printed. (Pity about the coloured bits; I'm out of red ink). And the material does not fit on 1 A4 on my printer. -- (c) John Stockton, Surrey, UK. ?@merlyn.demon.co.uk Turnpike v6.05 MIME. Web <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> - FAQish topics, acronyms, & links. Proper <= 4-line sig. separator as above, a line exactly "-- " (RFCs 5536/7) Do not Mail News to me. Before a reply, quote with ">" or "> " (RFCs 5536/7)
From: Dr J R Stockton on 22 Mar 2010 14:12 In comp.lang.javascript message <R82dnUg-OeHZtTvWnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d(a)earthl ink.com>, Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:07:53, Joe D Williams <joedwil(a)earthlink.net> posted: >: FAOENTRY - canvas wrote > >>> For those who have not used a PostScript-like system before, > >why compare it to anything specific? Why not? That's the best example that I know (probably there are many examples that I do not know; but a nodding acquaintance with PostScript should not be uncommon). >For simple and complex examples of some current connections available >using our >newly-beloved html5 canvas element, please see x3dom.org. Nothing useful found there, primarily because of the smallness of the fonts. That which works of their "examples" are not examples but demonstrations; the code is not manifest. -- (c) John Stockton, Surrey, UK. ?@merlyn.demon.co.uk Turnpike v6.05 MIME. Web <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> - FAQish topics, acronyms, & links. Proper <= 4-line sig. separator as above, a line exactly "-- " (RFCs 5536/7) Do not Mail News to me. Before a reply, quote with ">" or "> " (RFCs 5536/7)
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