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From: Rahul on 19 Feb 2010 18:32 Todd <todd(a)invalid.com> wrote in news:hln5ka$6uj$1(a)speranza.aioe.org: > As I said, workstation CentOS drives me out of > my mind. > > CentOS + Workstation = *STRESS* > > Try to convert a Windows home user over (iPod and > all), you will see what I mean. Fedora is a > much better choice for a workstation. > > That said, what is your opinion on why > I get a stripped Fedora 12 on my Virtual Machine? I was told by others before that CentOS was a bad choice for "home" and other applications. It's more of a server distro that places a huge premium on stability. Has long release cycles. So your troubles and preference for Fedora seems well founded. -- Rahul
From: Todd on 19 Feb 2010 19:02 On 02/19/2010 03:32 PM, Rahul wrote: > Todd<todd(a)invalid.com> wrote in news:hln5ka$6uj$1(a)speranza.aioe.org: > >> As I said, workstation CentOS drives me out of >> my mind. >> >> CentOS + Workstation = *STRESS* >> >> Try to convert a Windows home user over (iPod and >> all), you will see what I mean. Fedora is a >> much better choice for a workstation. >> >> That said, what is your opinion on why >> I get a stripped Fedora 12 on my Virtual Machine? > > I was told by others before that CentOS was a bad choice for "home" and > other applications. It's more of a server distro that places a huge premium > on stability. Has long release cycles. So your troubles and preference for > Fedora seems well founded. > I concur. Here is the thing I love about Fedora Core. It will eventurally wind up in CentOS (fc6= CentOS 5.x). So, what ever new I have to learn will everntually catch up to me on my CentOS servers. No culture stack to deal with (Ubunto etc.). -T
From: Robert Heller on 19 Feb 2010 21:34 At Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:07:52 -0800 Todd <todd(a)invalid.com> wrote: > > On 02/19/2010 02:32 PM, Rahul wrote: > > Todd<todd(a)invalid.com> wrote in news:hln0f6$vlk$1(a)speranza.aioe.org: > > > >> I use to do CentOS 5.4 on my workstations, but the > >> everliving *STRESS* of having them so, so gosh > >> awful *OUT-OF-DATE* has driving me to swearing. > > > > What do you mean? Just curious. The fact that CentOS packages are usually a > > few versions old? > > It is usually the stuff that home users want. > Like gtkpod, VLC 1.05, k3b 1.0.5. And the > HOLY MOTHER of all out of date programs: Firefox and > Thunderbird. On the corporate side: unsupported > printers and cryingly out of date Wine. > > As I said, workstation CentOS drives me out of > my mind. > > CentOS + Workstation = *STRESS* > > Try to convert a Windows home user over (iPod and > all), you will see what I mean. Fedora is a > much better choice for a workstation. > > That said, what is your opinion on why > I get a stripped Fedora 12 on my Virtual Machine? Your VM does not have the real, supported hardware. It has 'virtual' hardware which FC12 is not able to support or just does not see. > > Many thanks, > -T > > p.s. And Google Earth won't run either. AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! > > -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 Deepwoods Software -- Download the Model Railroad System http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Binaries for Linux and MS-Windows heller(a)deepsoft.com -- http://www.deepsoft.com/ModelRailroadSystem/
From: Moe Trin on 20 Feb 2010 14:52 On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.misc, in article <hln0f6$vlk$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>, Todd wrote: >Robert Heller wrote: >> ALL of these machines run CentOS 5.4 (based on FC6) >I use to do CentOS 5.4 on my workstations, but the >everliving *STRESS* of having them so, so gosh >awful *OUT-OF-DATE* has driving me to swearing. RHEL (on which CentOS is based) has a goal of stability, and that means not having the latest greatest (buggiest) versions of the various applications. Fedora on the other hand is meant to be at the cutting edge, and that doesn't make for stability. It is possible to include Fedora packages, but you do so at your own risk. >So, I figured if I went with Fedora on workstations, >what ever new showed up would eventually show up in my >CentOS servers. Source Date Destination Date 7.2 Oct 2002 2.1 Mar 2003 9 Apr 2003 3 Oct 2003 FC3 Nov 2004 4 Feb 2005 FC6 Oct 2006 5 Mar 2007 F13? May 2010? 6 2H 2010 >So no having to learning two cultures (Ubuntu, etc.). Good point - but I suspect you'll find that any stable/enterprise distribution is going to be behind - sometimes significantly so - the bleeding edge distributions. >What broke the camels back was no support for HP >Laser Jet 1020, Wine 1.0.1 (FC is on 1.1.36), >and no gtkpod support for my customer's iPod. The LJ and iPod perhaps - but is the real reason missing hardware support (which you can usually get around with selective upgrades of specific packages) or merely version number chasing? >p.s. CentOS works very, very well on my servers That's a key. It's a stable distribution that has had time for the various bugs to be worked out. This isn't the case with a dynamic distribution like Fedora (or *buntu which is based on Debian 'sid' rather than 'lenny' or even 'squeeze'). Old guy
From: Todd on 20 Feb 2010 16:02
On 02/19/2010 06:34 PM, Robert Heller wrote: > Put /home on its own partition! This will save you hassles later. Great idea! -T |