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From: Bob on 2 Jul 2010 03:49 On 02/07/2010 06:36, Jeff Liebermann wrote: > On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 20:52:15 +0100, Bob<bob(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > >>>> Are these one's you're having problems with? >>>> <http://www.fcc.gov/oet/ea/fccid/> >>>> <https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm> > >>> FCCID PY308100078 >>> User manual >>> <https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=915810> >>> gives me the "error" > > Ok. I get the same thing when I click the above link: > "You are not authorized to access this page." > >> aaargh! IE8 works if I add FCC to "compatibility view" however I still >> haven't got FF3.6.6 to work. > > Using Firefox 3.6.6 and punching PY3 08100078 into: > <http://www.fcc.gov/oet/ea/fccid/> > Yields 1ea 2.4Ghz Netgear wireless devices, and 4ea 5.x GHz devcies. > > Displaying the details on the first item yields the usual list of > documents. Punching the "user manual" results in the WNDR3300 > wireless router manual. No error messages. The associated link is: > https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=915810 > which is the same as what you posted. > > The problem is that you can't go directly to that link without first > dropping a cookie on your machine announcing that you have approved > the wholesale limitations of liability and responsibility demanded by > the FCC before you can view public documents under the Freedom of > Information Act of 1966. Enabled cookies, start at the top at > <http://www.fcc.gov/oet/ea/fccid/> > fill in the blanks, approved the disclaimer, and then it will work. > I must have a problem with FF as cookies for the FCC are always accepted. I have just downloaded Opera and I have no problems acquiring the data with cookies disabled or enabled.
From: Bob on 2 Jul 2010 04:31 On 02/07/2010 08:49, Bob wrote: > On 02/07/2010 06:36, Jeff Liebermann wrote: >> On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 20:52:15 +0100, Bob<bob(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >>>>> Are these one's you're having problems with? >>>>> <http://www.fcc.gov/oet/ea/fccid/> >>>>> <https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm> >> >>>> FCCID PY308100078 >>>> User manual >>>> <https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=915810> >>>> gives me the "error" >> >> Ok. I get the same thing when I click the above link: >> "You are not authorized to access this page." >> >>> aaargh! IE8 works if I add FCC to "compatibility view" however I still >>> haven't got FF3.6.6 to work. >> >> Using Firefox 3.6.6 and punching PY3 08100078 into: >> <http://www.fcc.gov/oet/ea/fccid/> >> Yields 1ea 2.4Ghz Netgear wireless devices, and 4ea 5.x GHz devcies. >> >> Displaying the details on the first item yields the usual list of >> documents. Punching the "user manual" results in the WNDR3300 >> wireless router manual. No error messages. The associated link is: >> https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=915810 >> which is the same as what you posted. >> >> The problem is that you can't go directly to that link without first >> dropping a cookie on your machine announcing that you have approved >> the wholesale limitations of liability and responsibility demanded by >> the FCC before you can view public documents under the Freedom of >> Information Act of 1966. Enabled cookies, start at the top at >> <http://www.fcc.gov/oet/ea/fccid/> >> fill in the blanks, approved the disclaimer, and then it will work. >> > I must have a problem with FF as cookies for the FCC are always > accepted. I have just downloaded Opera and I have no problems acquiring > the data with cookies disabled or enabled. For the last couple of years I have had the sendreferer header in about:config set to "0" and it seems that the FCC website doesn't like this. Modifying the sendreferer header to "1" allows me to access the data. Strange that I didn't have problems prior to FF3.6.4-3.6.6.
From: Jeff Liebermann on 2 Jul 2010 14:31 On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 09:31:31 +0100, Bob <bob(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >For the last couple of years I have had the sendreferer header in >about:config set to "0" and it seems that the FCC website doesn't like >this. Modifying the sendreferer header to "1" allows me to access the >data. Strange that I didn't have problems prior to FF3.6.4-3.6.6. Nice troubleshooting and sorry about the wrong cookies guess. The default is "2". <http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.http.sendRefererHeader> Those concerned with privacy can set this to 0, realizing that this may adversely affect some sites. Those wanting to ensure compatibility should leave it at the default. I think the FCC might be using logging software that records the refering web page. Why not having this information should cause and authorization error is rather mysterious. -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl(a)cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
From: Bob on 2 Jul 2010 16:38 On 02/07/2010 19:31, Jeff Liebermann wrote: > On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 09:31:31 +0100, Bob<bob(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> For the last couple of years I have had the sendreferer header in >> about:config set to "0" and it seems that the FCC website doesn't like >> this. Modifying the sendreferer header to "1" allows me to access the >> data. Strange that I didn't have problems prior to FF3.6.4-3.6.6. > > Nice troubleshooting and sorry about the wrong cookies guess. > > The default is "2". > <http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.http.sendRefererHeader> > Those concerned with privacy can set this to 0, realizing > that this may adversely affect some sites. Those wanting > to ensure compatibility should leave it at the default. > I think the FCC might be using logging software that records the > refering web page. Why not having this information should cause and > authorization error is rather mysterious. > > I have just noticed that the "Link" details are different from what they used to be as well. from alt.internet.wireless 2009 <https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=467852&native_or_pdf=pdf> has become <https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=467852> only accessible via the FCC website. This will make it difficult to provide a readily accessible link via usenet.
From: Jeff Liebermann on 3 Jul 2010 11:54
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 21:38:48 +0100, Bob <bob(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >I have just noticed that the "Link" details are different from what they >used to be as well. >from alt.internet.wireless 2009 ><https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=467852&native_or_pdf=pdf> >has become ><https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=467852> >only accessible via the FCC website. > >This will make it difficult to provide a readily accessible link via usenet. Good to know. The first link works without going through the approval process, so just inserting the document ID number into the first URL format should be suitable for providing a direct link. I just tried randomly changing the document ID and it seems to work. Incidentally, viewing any page does drop a cookie, fjallfoss.fcc.gov JSESSIONID, on my machine. It's set to expire at the end of the session. However, removing the cookie doesn't seem to do anything. -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl(a)cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |