From: Randy Yates on 13 Dec 2006 11:52 "Rune Allnor" <allnor(a)tele.ntnu.no> writes: > Normally, you are not very conscious about any such factors as > listed above. Unless your wife is driving... -- % Randy Yates % "Though you ride on the wheels of tomorrow, %% Fuquay-Varina, NC % you still wander the fields of your %%% 919-577-9882 % sorrow." %%%% <yates(a)ieee.org> % '21st Century Man', *Time*, ELO http://home.earthlink.net/~yatescr
From: Ron N. on 13 Dec 2006 13:41 Rune Allnor wrote: > Compare it to learning how to drive a car. There's a lot of early learning experience that's involved here. Walking on the sidewalk, riding tricycles, bicycles, and boards all help one learn to flow with traffic and not run into people well before one ever sits behind the steering wheel of a deadly weapon. I tend to think of DSP filters as fancy optimizations on what I attempted to do using a few R's and C's out of the junk bin when I was a kid. So I prefer to start dirt simple, and only use fancier methods when a more optimal solution is desired than some simple and transparent implementation will provide. IMHO. YMMV. -- Ron N. DSP page: http://www.nicholson.com/rhn/dsp.html
From: Randy Yates on 13 Dec 2006 13:49 "Ron N." <rhnlogic(a)yahoo.com> writes: > [...] Hey Ron, I don't see Mitra's text in your references of the Wikipedia article. Are you unaware of it? It is currently neck and neck with Proakis as my best theoretical DSP book. -- % Randy Yates % "...the answer lies within your soul %% Fuquay-Varina, NC % 'cause no one knows which side %%% 919-577-9882 % the coin will fall." %%%% <yates(a)ieee.org> % 'Big Wheels', *Out of the Blue*, ELO http://home.earthlink.net/~yatescr
From: Vladimir Vassilevsky on 13 Dec 2006 13:51 Ron N. wrote: > I tend to think of DSP filters as fancy optimizations on > what I attempted to do using a few R's and C's out of > the junk bin when I was a kid. This is a very well known misconception. It leads to the wrong conclusions and bad solutions. Unfortunately, there is a lot of that. Although one can build a digital model of an analog filter, generally the DSP filters are NOT the simulation of the analog filters. Vladimir Vassilevsky DSP and Mixed Signal Design Consultant http://www.abvolt.com
From: Ron N. on 13 Dec 2006 14:02
Vladimir Vassilevsky wrote: > Ron N. wrote: > > > I tend to think of DSP filters as fancy optimizations on > > what I attempted to do using a few R's and C's out of > > the junk bin when I was a kid. > > This is a very well known misconception. It leads to the wrong > conclusions and bad solutions. Unfortunately, there is a lot of that. Yes. I agree. However it helps to know how and why a bad solution fails in order to understand why a better solution fixes those issues. More complicated solutions often have even more failure modes; and there's a lot of that as well. IMHO. YMMV. -- rhn A.T nicholson d.0.t C-o-M |