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From: Sam on 31 Oct 2009 17:07 For the last 3-4 months updates have failed. Suggestions for a fix? First some info: WV: 5.1 (Build 2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090804-1435: Service Pac 3) Windows XP Home addition Here is the current message: Error Code: 0x645 1) Update to .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 for the .NET Framework Assistant 1.0 x86 (KB963707)...Failed 2) Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1 Security Update for Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, Windows 7, and Windows Server 2008 R2 (KB953297)....Failed 3) Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 Security Update for Windows 2000, Windows Server 2003, and Windows XP (KB974417)....Failed 4) Microsoft Silverlight Update for Microsoft Silverlight (KB974331)... Failed
From: TaurArian on 31 Oct 2009 18:02 Sam @ Clear Waters Services wrote: :: For the last 3-4 months updates have failed. Suggestions for a fix? :: First some info: :: WV: 5.1 (Build 2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090804-1435: Service Pac 3) Windows :: XP Home addition :: :: Here is the current message: :: :: Error Code: 0x645 :: 1) Update to .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 for the .NET Framework :: Assistant 1.0 x86 (KB963707)...Failed :: 2) Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1 Security Update for :: Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, :: Windows 7, and Windows Server 2008 R2 (KB953297)....Failed :: 3) Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 Security Update for :: Windows 2000, Windows Server 2003, and Windows XP :: (KB974417)....Failed 4) Microsoft Silverlight Update for Microsoft :: Silverlight (KB974331)... Failed For Framework - When you try to install an update for the .NET Framework 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, 3.0, or 3.5, you may receive Windows Update error code "0x643" or Windows Installer error code "1603" http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100 When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you may receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982 Silverlight - How to manually clean up a broken Silverlight installation http://blogs.msdn.com/rpomeroy/archive/2008/06/10/how-to-manually-clean-up-a-bad-silverlight-installation.aspx -- TaurArian [MVP] 2005-2010 - Update Services http://taurarian.mvps.org ====================================== Disclaimer: The information has been posted "as is" with no warranties or guarantees and doesn't give any rights.
From: Derf McKensy on 1 Nov 2009 07:51 I, too, have recently encountered two .NET Framework Critical Updates that fail to instal correctly. I tried to start a new question but couldn't get that window to open so I thought this might be a good spot since my problems are similar in nature and I already read and followed your previous advice to the original poster and it was very helpful. The two updates are KB974417 and KB951847. They have repeatedly failed over the past month. Through a support link on the Update site, I was able to get few a few emails with Update Support before they turned me over to MS engineering support. From there, they had me do pretty much the same thing as was described in your links. I used a cleanup tool to completely remove all versions of .NET software from this machine and then re-install each one in the proper order. That worked all the way up until I got to the two updates in question and I experienced the very same failure to install. MS engineering Support gave me the wave-off telling me that I didn't need those updates and even though I could attempt to hide them, I would be faced with the warnings that I have hidden critcal updates from that point on. Not a happy solution in my opinion. So I decided to try again and follow the steps outlined in your links as closely as possible. I first tried using the Add/Remove Panel to remnove the ..NET software as was described to be the "prefered" method. That removed a couple versions but two components failed to remove that way. So I used the latest version of the cleanup tool that I could find and it removed all the ..NET software. Then, I tried that "Windows Install Cleanup Tool" that one of your links suggested but I couldn't find any remaining .NET software to point it to so I just exited that. I did the reboot and I was about to start installing all the .NET stuff starting with "1.0" and working my way up in order like I did before. This time I was very careful when I downloaded all the .NET things, renaming them as "dotnet1a.exe and dotnet1b.exe and then dotnet2a.exe" and so on. But I forgot to save your post in this newsgroup as a favorite and I wanted to read it again so I attempted to retrace my steps to find it and that entailed going through the windows update site. Well, low and behold, when I went to Windows Update, it said I didn't need ANY Critiacal Updates. No warnings, no nothing! So, now, my question, why do I have to install ANY of the .NET Framework structure? I know the only way you might be able to answer that is to know a bit more about my system. And I apoligize up front for being so wordy but I don't know how else to get help without a ton of cross-communication. So, I'll start with my specs and then what I use it for. Genuine Intel D875BZLK w/800 MHz bus speed OB gigabit LAN & native SATA 150 support 4) 512MB sticks of Corsair Extreme 2.5 CAS RAM 3.2E Prescott Family 15 Model 3 Stepping 3 with Hyper-Threading running at 3192 Mhz. (2) Hitachi Deskstar 80/8/7500 SATA drives running in a RAID-0 array SoundBlaster Audigy-2 ZS Gamer edition 8x AGP Asus V9570 FX5700 128 MB video DH20A4P optical DVD burner Win XP Pro SP3 w/IE 7 & Visual Studio 6.0 I built this machine for the sole intent to be able to take all my old VHS tapes and transfer them to DVDs. I wanted a machine that colud process video faster than it could play and this thing does it quite well. I don't like Windows deciding to download and install updates in the midst of my burning a DVD so I prefer to use the Windows Update site manually once a week. I also dabble in a little software creation with Visual Studio because I learned BASIC and QuickBasic when they came out and I've always liked that sort of thing. But I don't do anything commercially and apart from web surfing and email, I use this for my banking and other persoanl stuff including my own website which you can see here. > http://drmcwheels.com < I have no idea what the .NET Framework structure does for me as I understand its importance for developers is its primary reason for existing. So what problems may I experience if I don't load ANY of the .NET updates? I still attempt to maintain a pretty tight security through a router and then the AVG Internet Security suite and Firewall plus I use SpybotS&D at least monthly. I have never had any breaches in my security so far but then again, who knows what will happen now. Again, I'm sorry for writing so much but I would really appreciat enay help you can provide. Thanks very much. Dave, (aka, Derf McKensy) "TaurArian" wrote: > Sam @ Clear Waters Services wrote: > :: For the last 3-4 months updates have failed. Suggestions for a fix? > :: First some info: > :: WV: 5.1 (Build 2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090804-1435: Service Pac 3) Windows > :: XP Home addition > :: > :: Here is the current message: > :: > :: Error Code: 0x645 > :: 1) Update to .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 for the .NET Framework > :: Assistant 1.0 x86 (KB963707)...Failed > :: 2) Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1 Security Update for > :: Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, > :: Windows 7, and Windows Server 2008 R2 (KB953297)....Failed > :: 3) Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 Security Update for > :: Windows 2000, Windows Server 2003, and Windows XP > :: (KB974417)....Failed 4) Microsoft Silverlight Update for Microsoft > :: Silverlight (KB974331)... Failed > > > For Framework - > > When you try to install an update for the .NET Framework 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, 3.0, > or 3.5, you may receive Windows Update error code "0x643" or Windows > Installer error code "1603" > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100 > > When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you may > receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982 > > > > Silverlight - > > How to manually clean up a broken Silverlight installation > http://blogs.msdn.com/rpomeroy/archive/2008/06/10/how-to-manually-clean-up-a-bad-silverlight-installation.aspx > > > > > -- > > TaurArian [MVP] 2005-2010 - Update Services > http://taurarian.mvps.org > ====================================== > Disclaimer: The information has been posted "as is" with no warranties > or guarantees and doesn't give any rights. > > > > > . >
From: Robert Aldwinckle on 1 Nov 2009 10:17 "Derf McKensy" <DerfMcKensy(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2FA15AEC-6B32-4CD8-80EE-82F78EE29055(a)microsoft.com... > [X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000] (web interface post) > I, too, have recently encountered two .NET Framework Critical Updates that > fail to instal correctly. > > I tried to start a new question but couldn't get that window to open so I > thought this might be a good spot since my problems are similar in nature and > I already read and followed your previous advice to the original poster and > it was very helpful. I'm amazed web interface users can find anything current since the interface's search index seems to be FUBAR. FYI you would have better luck posting using a real NNTP newsreader than using the web interface to this newsgroup. If you want to try you could Run... (e.g. press Win-R and enter) this: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsupdate E.g. that can create a new news account in an MS news client such as OE, WinMail or WLMail (depending on OS and what has been installed.) Note that you should customize its Properties before trying to post using it. Otherwise, usually the problem with creating a new thread via the web interface is avoiding interference from a pop-up blocker. > > The two updates are KB974417 and KB951847. <title>MS09-061: Description of the security update for the Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 and the Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1: October 13, 2009</title> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=974417 <title>List of changes and fixed issues in the .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1</title> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=951847 > They have repeatedly failed over the past month. Through a support link on the Update site, I was able to get > few a few emails with Update Support before they turned me over to MS > engineering support. From there, they had me do pretty much the same thing > as was described in your links. Has anybody suggested doing some diagnosis? There is a lot of logging available from .NET updates which could explain your problem symptoms if you take the trouble to look for it. Also, you may find that some of the diagnostics become much more apparent if you download and install the updates manually, instead of trying to let AU do it. > I used a cleanup tool to completely remove > all versions of .NET software from this machine and then re-install each one > in the proper order. That worked all the way up until I got to the two > updates in question and I experienced the very same failure to install. All the more reason to do some diagnosis then. FWIW I think that the uninstall everything and reinstall technique is probably mainly designed to avoid having to suggest diagnosis. > > MS engineering Support gave me the wave-off telling me that I didn't need > those updates and even though I could attempt to hide them, I would be faced > with the warnings that I have hidden critcal updates from that point on. Not > a happy solution in my opinion. > > So I decided to try again and follow the steps outlined in your links as > closely as possible. I first tried using the Add/Remove Panel to remnove the > .NET software as was described to be the "prefered" method. That removed a > couple versions but two components failed to remove that way. So I used the > latest version of the cleanup tool that I could find and it removed all the > .NET software. Then, I tried that "Windows Install Cleanup Tool" that one of > your links suggested but I couldn't find any remaining .NET software to point > it to so I just exited that. > > I did the reboot and I was about to start installing all the .NET stuff > starting with "1.0" and working my way up in order like I did before. This > time I was very careful when I downloaded all the .NET things, renaming them > as "dotnet1a.exe and dotnet1b.exe and then dotnet2a.exe" and so on. But I > forgot to save your post in this newsgroup as a favorite and I wanted to read > it again so I attempted to retrace my steps to find it and that entailed > going through the windows update site. Well, low and behold, when I went to > Windows Update, it said I didn't need ANY Critiacal Updates. No warnings, no > nothing! > > So, now, my question, why do I have to install ANY of the .NET Framework > structure? > > I know the only way you might be able to answer that is to know a bit more > about my system. And I apoligize up front for being so wordy but I don't know > how else to get help without a ton of cross-communication. So, I'll start > with my specs and then what I use it for. > > Genuine Intel D875BZLK w/800 MHz bus speed > OB gigabit LAN & native SATA 150 support > 4) 512MB sticks of Corsair Extreme 2.5 CAS RAM > 3.2E Prescott Family 15 Model 3 Stepping 3 > with Hyper-Threading running at 3192 Mhz. > (2) Hitachi Deskstar 80/8/7500 SATA drives > running in a RAID-0 array > SoundBlaster Audigy-2 ZS Gamer edition > 8x AGP Asus V9570 FX5700 128 MB video > DH20A4P optical DVD burner > Win XP Pro SP3 w/IE 7 & Visual Studio 6.0 > > I built this machine for the sole intent to be able to take all my old VHS > tapes and transfer them to DVDs. I wanted a machine that colud process video > faster than it could play and this thing does it quite well. I don't like > Windows deciding to download and install updates in the midst of my burning a > DVD so I prefer to use the Windows Update site manually once a week. I also > dabble in a little software creation with Visual Studio because I learned > BASIC and QuickBasic when they came out and I've always liked that sort of > thing. But I don't do anything commercially and apart from web surfing and > email, I use this for my banking and other persoanl stuff including my own > website which you can see here. > http://drmcwheels.com < > > I have no idea what the .NET Framework structure does for me as I understand > its importance for developers is its primary reason for existing. So what > problems may I experience if I don't load ANY of the .NET updates? Some software and services won't work properly or at all. A suprising example I found recently is that FaceBook seems to look at the CLR information in the IE User-Agent string and change its output accordingly. Also, do you visit sites which are implemented in SilverLight? You would need .NET to use them. E.g. I suspect this page would like quite different without either: http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/ HTH Robert Aldwinckle --- > I still > attempt to maintain a pretty tight security through a router and then the AVG > Internet Security suite and Firewall plus I use SpybotS&D at least monthly. > I have never had any breaches in my security so far but then again, who knows > what will happen now. > > Again, I'm sorry for writing so much but I would really appreciat enay help > you can provide. Thanks very much. Dave, (aka, Derf McKensy) > > "TaurArian" wrote: > >> Sam @ Clear Waters Services wrote: >> :: For the last 3-4 months updates have failed. Suggestions for a fix? >> :: First some info: >> :: WV: 5.1 (Build 2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090804-1435: Service Pac 3) Windows >> :: XP Home addition >> :: >> :: Here is the current message: >> :: >> :: Error Code: 0x645 >> :: 1) Update to .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 for the .NET Framework >> :: Assistant 1.0 x86 (KB963707)...Failed >> :: 2) Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1 Security Update for >> :: Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, >> :: Windows 7, and Windows Server 2008 R2 (KB953297)....Failed >> :: 3) Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 Security Update for >> :: Windows 2000, Windows Server 2003, and Windows XP >> :: (KB974417)....Failed 4) Microsoft Silverlight Update for Microsoft >> :: Silverlight (KB974331)... Failed >> >> >> For Framework - >> >> When you try to install an update for the .NET Framework 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, 3.0, >> or 3.5, you may receive Windows Update error code "0x643" or Windows >> Installer error code "1603" >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100 >> >> When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you may >> receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982 >> >> >> >> Silverlight - >> >> How to manually clean up a broken Silverlight installation >> http://blogs.msdn.com/rpomeroy/archive/2008/06/10/how-to-manually-clean-up-a-bad-silverlight-installation.aspx >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> TaurArian [MVP] 2005-2010 - Update Services >> http://taurarian.mvps.org >> ====================================== >> Disclaimer: The information has been posted "as is" with no warranties >> or guarantees and doesn't give any rights. >> >> >> >> >> . >>
From: WishonaS on 1 Nov 2009 12:53 i HAVE "MYWEBSEARCH" it has slowed my system, No copy,No paste, No toolbar and No Favs. How can I get rid of it. I have Clear Wireless internet. "Sam @ Clear Waters Services" wrote: > For the last 3-4 months updates have failed. Suggestions for a fix? > First some info: > WV: 5.1 (Build 2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090804-1435: Service Pac 3) Windows XP Home > addition > > Here is the current message: > > Error Code: 0x645 > 1) Update to .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 for the .NET Framework > Assistant 1.0 x86 (KB963707)...Failed > 2) Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1 Security Update for Windows > 2000, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, Windows 7, and Windows > Server 2008 R2 (KB953297)....Failed > 3) Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 Security Update for Windows > 2000, Windows Server 2003, and Windows XP (KB974417)....Failed > 4) Microsoft Silverlight Update for Microsoft Silverlight (KB974331)... Failed
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