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From: Billabong on 3 Jan 2010 07:59 "Turnipweed" <me(a)pit.com> wrote in message news:atdgj55l9nj9s8rfta8b0qtdt40lm4gvsn(a)4ax.com... > On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 04:28:02 -0000, "Ant" <not(a)home.today> wrote: > > >>If you rely on other software to make the fixes then you'll never be >>sure it's fixed. What you should have is a good understanding of the >>OS, especially the registry and load points for drivers and user-land >>executables and a good set of tools for diagnostics - including the >>ability to boot a different OS (e.g. a Linux live CD) to inspect an >>infected Windows system disk. Then, with access to the machine, you >>manually make the changes yourself. > > Lots of times I remove the drive, and plug it into my own machine by > USB adapter. MBAM, SAS, and a couple of other scanners usually knock > it out, though it's way too time consuming. If my friend or relative > has proper backups and a Windows disk, I can do a clean windows > install in an hour. It sometimes takes me 2 or 3 hours to try and > salvage the OS. > >>> If someone was really ambitious and honest, they could get rich (or >>> at least famous). >> >>Not with an off-the-shelf software fix. >> >>What needs to be fixed (educated) are the users who install this >>malware so they stop doing it. > > Very true. I have educated many people on this, but they still fail. > > Know why? > > Because they get tired of clicking on the popups from their AV and AS > programs and turn it off. At least that's what most of them tell me. > > Thanks, and Happy New Year,,, That same was with me; I have MBAM too. I could not believe that so many viruses could be there and turned it off, which turned into disaster. I still feel that MBAM is overdoing, I cannot believe that even Yahoo or Google have flaws.
From: Slarty on 3 Jan 2010 11:14 On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 20:59:41 +0800, Billabong wrote: > > That same was with me; I have MBAM too. I could not believe that so many > viruses could be there and turned it off, which turned into disaster. I > still feel that MBAM is overdoing, I cannot believe that even Yahoo or > Google have flaws. I do hope that you don't seriously believe that? Some 'flaws' are probably not accidental either, a cynic writes. Cheers, Roy
From: FromTheRafters on 4 Jan 2010 07:19 "Billabong" <info(a)osvrt.net> wrote in message news:VfWdnc3P4Ki-VNzWnZ2dnVY3gokAAAAA(a)giganews.com... > Before I had other anti-virus software and my computer was behaving in > a way that I was anything but glad; but I got used to all that. When I > installed MBAM, I thought if cannot be sinply true; if so many viruses > are there, how was my computer able to work? I actually did not know > what to do: to delete them or not? Today computer runs like a rocket, > but still there might be some of the malicious items in the Yahoo or > Gmail, and Google too. I shall try another AV to see if it is a false > positive. You seem to be confusing "virus" with "malware". MBAM does not address viruses (except peripherally) and is not a replacement for AV software. It is best to have *both* available.
From: The Central Scrutinizer on 5 Jan 2010 01:40 Virus versus malware is just a detail to the average user. Do your parents or my parents know the difference? I doubt it. "FromTheRafters" <erratic(a)nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message news:hhsmcv$3cm$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > "Billabong" <info(a)osvrt.net> wrote in message > news:VfWdnc3P4Ki-VNzWnZ2dnVY3gokAAAAA(a)giganews.com... > > >> Before I had other anti-virus software and my computer was behaving in a >> way that I was anything but glad; but I got used to all that. When I >> installed MBAM, I thought if cannot be sinply true; if so many viruses >> are there, how was my computer able to work? I actually did not know what >> to do: to delete them or not? Today computer runs like a rocket, but >> still there might be some of the malicious items in the Yahoo or Gmail, >> and Google too. I shall try another AV to see if it is a false positive. > > You seem to be confusing "virus" with "malware". MBAM does not address > viruses (except peripherally) and is not a replacement for AV software. It > is best to have *both* available. >
From: Dustin Cook on 5 Jan 2010 13:37
"The Central Scrutinizer" <gcisko(a)hotmail.com> wrote in news:hhumt2$22q$1(a)speranza.aioe.org: > Virus versus malware is just a detail to the average user. Do your > parents or my parents know the difference? I doubt it. it's an important detail. Same as knowing which side is positive and which is negative on a battery; you only get one chance in some cases to connect something correctly; or the magic smoke comes out. This is the same idea. We don't deal with viruses, it's not the focus of our program; without a seperate antivirus, your not as safe as you could be. Users even average ones need to be educated. -- .... Those are my thoughts anyways... |