From: cjcountess on 10 Aug 2010 18:46 On Aug 10, 3:54 pm, Virgil <Vir...(a)home.esc> wrote: > In article > <d6592326-9a1c-4766-9f82-ca7a8358a...(a)a18g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, > > cjcountess<cjcount...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > Now to show some aspects of the multi dimensionality of the natural > > units c and c^2 > > > In linear mathematics, 1x1=1. > > In geometry, 1 unit length in linear direction x 1 equal unit length > > in 90 degree angular direction = 1 square unit. > > But in geometry, as elsewhere 1 unit is different from the number 1. > > For example. 1 can always be added to and the result is always 2 but > one unit cannot be added to one unit unless the units are comaptible, > and even then the result need not be two units unless the units are al > the same. > > 1 metre plus 1 gram is nonsense, but 1 plus 1 is always sensible. > > 1 metre plus 1 inch is possible but the result is not 2 of any standard > unit even though 1 plus 1 is 2. > > Thus numbers are normally unitless, though they may be used to count > units. Virgil, I know this, and that is why I have said in earlier post, "1 unit in linear direction x 1 unit of "EQUAL" measure in 90 degree angular direction", and in this one I related it to "1" unit of the kind involved in triangle with "sqrt2" as diagonal measure, as the lengths of the 2 sides are equal and seems to me to conveys a sort of most basic geometrical unit of 1. Spudnik I am still thinking about what you said. Wasn't it you who pointed out that someone had designated (c=sqrt2)? Conrad J Countess
From: spudnik on 10 Aug 2010 22:02 any trigon or tetragon will tile the plane. as for Weber, I think it is in this article: http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/spring01/Electrodynamics.html and it is just an additional factor. dear editor: Re the new mercury standard from the EPA, it seems to be assumed that the mercury is from emmissions -- searched a recent story about possible increase in fish e.g. -- but here's another suspect. I've seen a special facility at new apartments for dispozing of flourescent lights, but I have also seen the profligate tossing of the new, small, screw-in CFLs -- most of which are probably made in southwest Asia -- and it is hard to imagine that this stuff is not leached from the landfills, eventually if not sooner. Alas, the long bulbs have been around for decades.
From: cjcountess on 12 Aug 2010 12:59
Hello spudnik I read and reread the article and found it quite interesting and can identify with alot of it. First of all, I too recognize that in this highly prestigious and respectible area of study, where one would expect people to be above some of the petty behaviours of most, people still seem to be more concerned about "who is right and gets credit for it, than what is more objectivly right and contibutes to the knowledge base and uplifting of humanity as a whole". Thus people and groups do not give proper credit and respect to those who rightfully lay first claim to an idea and /or discovery and give it to others of their political, social economical, national, and so on group of interest. I also found it interesting that gravity might be considered the inbalence of the attractive force over the repulsive force but still under same electromagnetic force. I see both these forces, gravity and electromagnetic, as extensions of eachother, and both as a consiquense of rotational energy. In the geometrical interpretation of (E=mc^2) = (E=mc^circled and or sphered), I see "gravitational rest mass" as the result of a balence of centripital and centrifugal forces of "c in linear direction and c in 90 degree angular direction". And thus E=mc^2 = m=Ec^2 and also G=mc^2 for the measure of a quantum of gravity rest mass. The equivalence principal can also be involked here to say that just as th energy/mass equivalence makes E=mc^2 = m=Ec^2 the further extension of it to acceleration/inertia mass/ gravity mass equvalence makes these also = G=mc^2. If one lookse at the F=mv^2 of Newton and E=mc^2 of Einstien one can see the analogy of these but further observation reveals a direct correspondence also. And so with the adding of 1/c^2 to the gravity theory one might very well obtain a more accurate measure of the murcury orbit. The G or gravity constant defined as L/T^2 is equvalent to c^2 which is the highest possible L/T^2 and v^2. Therefore G=c^2 and also the ultimate v^2 in equation F=mv^2. Thus G=mc^2 and also F=mv^2 on quantum level. Also if one views c^2 as c in circular motion one can say c/2pi and see that c = r in F=Gmm/r^2 also. If one further sees that if energy makes two rotations at right angle to eachother to complete one wave cycle c/2pi/2 as well as h/2pi/2 can be seen as measure and also the two rotations can be seen as perihelion motion. Furthermore c^2 seems from this prespective to be the conversion factor between energy mass as well as electrical charge and time cycle as well as length satisfing the need for charge to be equavalent to length, time measurement. Also tempreture can be added because as temp is a frequency c^2 is the frequency where energy cools to attain rest mass. It all seems to fit just right. Oh yeah, If we say that (E=mc^2) = (F=mv^2) than we can see that gravity can be seen as space pushing back on matter in direct proportion to ots mass, The more (E=mc^2) an object has, the more space pushes back with an equal and opposite or right angular force of "F=mv^2". If small mass is in direct vicinity of larger mass space pushes back on both according to each ones (E=mc^2) and the smaller one gets pushed into the larger by (F=mv^2) = (Gmm/r^2). But charge seems to come from direction of spin as two particles with same spin repell while with opposite spin attract. This is probably the reason why angular motion has to be taken into account as paper stated and why wires repell and attract according to direction of current flow also mentioned in paper. There was so much in that paper and I can't address all right now but will reread it again and again and get back to you. Thank you for the paper it helps clarify some things Conrad J Countess |