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From: John Varela on 8 Jul 2010 21:09 On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 20:52:47 UTC, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > In article > <tkettler-3A686E.16454008072010(a)reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.exam > ple.com>, > "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler(a)blownfuse.net> wrote: > > > If you registered it with Apple, wouldn't you have an email thanking you > > for having registered it unless you deleted it? I have the generic email > > from Apple after I registered my 17" i7 MacBook Pro. > > Yes, but that doesn't show the date of purchase. Presumably the registration is within a few days of purchase. Unless Apple can find a record of the email in their own files, an email isn't evidence of anything. Anyone can edit an email to make it say whatever they want. Paper copies, too, can be altered. An original might do, if you're not a professional counterfeiter. If it's not in their records then at some point they either trust you or they don't. -- John Varela
From: dorayme on 8 Jul 2010 21:34 In article <tkettler-C3A4E2.21074908072010(a)reserved-multicast-range-not-dele gated.example.com>, "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler(a)blownfuse.net> wrote: > In article <dorayme-BE889D.10521709072010(a)news.albasani.net>, > dorayme <dorayme(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > In article > > <tkettler-FE0002.20345308072010(a)reserved-multicast-range-not-dele > > gated.example.com>, > > "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler(a)blownfuse.net> wrote: > > > > > I'd argue that the warranty should > > > start from the date I received it, not the day I ordered it. After all, > > > why should I be penalized for any potential delays with Customs? > > > > What if it were legal for customs to open it and check it out, > > you know, for bomb making instructions and porno stuff and even > > for hidden drugs? What if it took months or even years, why > > should poor Apple be responsible for that? > > Of course, in that case, then I would have paid for something that I > couldn't have used, and, also upon receipt, would be unable to have it > repaired as a result of what customs may have done to it since it may no > longer be under warranty. While we are discussing an extreme case, how > would you feel if you bought something, did not receive it until the > warranty expired and found it defective? I would be furious. I sympathise with you. The truth is probably that they are legally obliged to fix it if nothing in the transit to you can explain the defect, independently of the warranty. But it would be a hassle. Must say, the last thing I returned on warranty that I actually got back (a mobile phone) had exactly the same fault on its return to me! By which time the warranty ran out. I have reasons to believe I could have got them to fix it or compensate me but it was too inconvenient without the firm legal structure of a valid warranty and they had exhausted my patience so I gave up! -- dorayme
From: Thomas R. Kettler on 8 Jul 2010 21:48 In article <dorayme-70FB51.11342609072010(a)news.albasani.net>, dorayme <dorayme(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > In article > <tkettler-C3A4E2.21074908072010(a)reserved-multicast-range-not-dele > gated.example.com>, > "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler(a)blownfuse.net> wrote: > > > In article <dorayme-BE889D.10521709072010(a)news.albasani.net>, > > dorayme <dorayme(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > > > In article > > > <tkettler-FE0002.20345308072010(a)reserved-multicast-range-not-dele > > > gated.example.com>, > > > "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler(a)blownfuse.net> wrote: > > > > > > > I'd argue that the warranty should > > > > start from the date I received it, not the day I ordered it. After all, > > > > why should I be penalized for any potential delays with Customs? > > > > > > What if it were legal for customs to open it and check it out, > > > you know, for bomb making instructions and porno stuff and even > > > for hidden drugs? What if it took months or even years, why > > > should poor Apple be responsible for that? > > > > Of course, in that case, then I would have paid for something that I > > couldn't have used, and, also upon receipt, would be unable to have it > > repaired as a result of what customs may have done to it since it may no > > longer be under warranty. While we are discussing an extreme case, how > > would you feel if you bought something, did not receive it until the > > warranty expired and found it defective? > > I would be furious. I sympathise with you. The truth is probably > that they are legally obliged to fix it if nothing in the transit > to you can explain the defect, independently of the warranty. But > it would be a hassle. Thankfully, I did not have that problem. However, I could see people getting angry with Apple, Dell, etc. when they would buy laptop batteries from the bargain basement Chinese which caught fire since they were horrendously made. That was notorious. -- Remove blown from email address to reply.
From: D Finnigan on 10 Jul 2010 16:42 Jolly Roger wrote: > In article <dog_cow-1278607285(a)macgui.com>, > dog_cow(a)macgui.com (D Finnigan) wrote: >> >> Check the creation date of your home folder. > > That's not a reliable measure. > It is on my machine, and that's why I suggested it. What do you propose is reliable instead? -- Mac GUI Vault - A source for retro Apple II and Macintosh computing. http://macgui.com/vault/
From: Richard Maine on 10 Jul 2010 17:01
D Finnigan <dog_cow(a)macgui.com> wrote: > Jolly Roger wrote: > > In article <dog_cow-1278607285(a)macgui.com>, > > dog_cow(a)macgui.com (D Finnigan) wrote: > >> > >> Check the creation date of your home folder. > > > > That's not a reliable measure. > > It is on my machine, and that's why I suggested it. What do you propose is > reliable instead? It might give the correct answer on your machine at the moment, but that is not even close to the same thing as reliable. "Reliable" doesn't mean "is right on occasion." It doesn't even mean "is right more often than not". It won't necessarily continue to be right on your machine. There are all kinds of things that can make it become wrong. Some of those things happen enough that the creation date of your home folder does not count as particularly reliable. See the other posts for the answer which is, in short, that there is no reliable way to find a purchase or registration date from information on your machine (except for things like a reciept that might be in your email, or for that matter a note that you might have made, but neither of those are things that ar einherent in the machine). A manufacturing date you can find. -- Richard Maine | Good judgment comes from experience; email: last name at domain . net | experience comes from bad judgment. domain: summertriangle | -- Mark Twain |