Firewall Appliances
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From: Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] on 22 Jul 2010 17:19 The Calyptix Access Enforcer with all UTM with a recommendation for up to 10 users (however there are no cal's counted so you can connect as many as you wish until you see a performance issue) is 999.00 another 259.00 for a 3 year hardware warranty. Each year you would pay around 400.00 for renewing UTM definition updates etc. It is not, AFAIK, available outside the US yet though -- Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] (since 1997) Co-Contributor, Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Small-Business-Server-Unleashed/dp/0672329573/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217269967&sr=8-1 Owner, CPU Services, Belleville, IL A Microsoft Registered Partner ------------------------------------ MVPs do not work for Microsoft Please do not submit questions directly to me. "Leythos" <spam999free(a)rrohio.com> wrote in message news:MPG.26b2536178afa8e89896d7(a)us.news.astraweb.com... In article <e2vg461ma5l23mru9bu14krtdjkcanktsc(a)4ax.com>, Bilbo says... > Running SBS 2003 SP2 but am considering "upgrade" to SBS 2008. > But SBS 2008 networks seem to be single-NIC networks thus exposing > all the SBS clients to the WAN interface. > > This argues that some kind of firewall appliance is needed. For small > LANs (<10 clients) the cost of such an appliance can be a > deal-breaker. > > Does anyone have recommendations about such appliances for small LANs? > Do they require subscriptions? > Do they require CAL-type licensing? > > I've spent quite a bit of time looking into this and haven't wound up > knowing anything more than when I started. I need to understand real > operating costs of these devices. > > All I'm seeing out there is a bunch of marketing slime. > I never install SBS, any version, without a firewall appliance, and I don't mean one of those crappy NAT routers that pretends to be a firewall. Today, unlike 10 years ago, firewall appliances do so much more than just detect attacks or filter, they often come with anti-spam, anti- malware, content blocking, web filters, etc.... A reasonable firewall for a small company, that is hosting their own email, will run about $1400, but a dirt cheap one would cost about $550 with the filtering services. I buy WatchGuard because I've used about everything on the market and they just seem to have it going right all these years. I have more than 80 different WG appliances in the field and a few of them are 7+ years old and still working (although unsupported, end of lifed). -- You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that. Trust yourself. spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
From: Colin on 23 Jul 2010 04:37 Hi Bilbo, Leythos convinced me to try Watchguard products 3 - 4 years ago and now I wouldn't use anything else. The granularity offered by these units is fantastic and so easy to configure. With a full UTM Security Suite (subscription based, price depending on model), you can block malware and spam at the firewall which alone is worth the investment. Colin. "Bilbo fake rubbish.domain.org>" wrote: > Running SBS 2003 SP2 but am considering "upgrade" to SBS 2008. > But SBS 2008 networks seem to be single-NIC networks thus exposing > all the SBS clients to the WAN interface. > > This argues that some kind of firewall appliance is needed. For small > LANs (<10 clients) the cost of such an appliance can be a > deal-breaker. > > Does anyone have recommendations about such appliances for small LANs? > Do they require subscriptions? > Do they require CAL-type licensing? > > I've spent quite a bit of time looking into this and haven't wound up > knowing anything more than when I started. I need to understand real > operating costs of these devices. > > All I'm seeing out there is a bunch of marketing slime. > > TIA > -- > BilBo > . >
From: Leythos on 23 Jul 2010 17:06 In article <794459EF-9F49-46D1-95C4-1DABED3578A7(a)microsoft.com>, Colin(a)discussions.microsoft.com says... > Leythos convinced me to try Watchguard products 3 - 4 years ago and now I > wouldn't use anything else. > Thanks - and just think, I even provide free support via Usenet or email :-) -- You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that. Trust yourself. spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
From: Andrew Hodgson on 23 Jul 2010 17:42 On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:19:41 -0500, "Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]" <crisnospamhanna(a)cpunospamservices.net> wrote: >The Calyptix Access Enforcer with all UTM with a recommendation for up to 10 users (however there are no cal's counted so you can connect as many as you wish until you see a performance issue) is 999.00 another 259.00 for a 3 year hardware warranty. Each year you would pay around 400.00 for renewing UTM definition updates etc. > >It is not, AFAIK, available outside the US yet though Yes, still not available outside the US which is a real shame. Andrew.
From: Bilbo wlp faux>fake on 27 Jul 2010 11:32 Thanks to all who replied. You've given me some food for thought. I think I'll have to pilot some of these on my own server before doing it for/to any of my clients. Bilbo On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:20:58 -0500, Bilbo <wlp<faux>fake<at>rubbish.domain.org> wrote: >Running SBS 2003 SP2 but am considering "upgrade" to SBS 2008. >But SBS 2008 networks seem to be single-NIC networks thus exposing >all the SBS clients to the WAN interface. > >This argues that some kind of firewall appliance is needed. For small >LANs (<10 clients) the cost of such an appliance can be a >deal-breaker. > >Does anyone have recommendations about such appliances for small LANs? >Do they require subscriptions? >Do they require CAL-type licensing? > >I've spent quite a bit of time looking into this and haven't wound up >knowing anything more than when I started. I need to understand real >operating costs of these devices. > >All I'm seeing out there is a bunch of marketing slime. > >TIA -- BilBo
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