Firewall Appliances
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From: Bilbo wlp faux>fake on 22 Jul 2010 13:20 Running SBS 2003 SP2 but am considering "upgrade" to SBS 2008. But SBS 2008 networks seem to be single-NIC networks thus exposing all the SBS clients to the WAN interface. This argues that some kind of firewall appliance is needed. For small LANs (<10 clients) the cost of such an appliance can be a deal-breaker. Does anyone have recommendations about such appliances for small LANs? Do they require subscriptions? Do they require CAL-type licensing? I've spent quite a bit of time looking into this and haven't wound up knowing anything more than when I started. I need to understand real operating costs of these devices. All I'm seeing out there is a bunch of marketing slime. TIA -- BilBo
From: SteveB on 22 Jul 2010 13:43 If your budget is really low you could consider using the free open source Untangle on a low end P4 box. Steve "Bilbo fake rubbish.domain.org>" <wlp<fauxat> wrote in message news:e2vg461ma5l23mru9bu14krtdjkcanktsc(a)4ax.com... > Running SBS 2003 SP2 but am considering "upgrade" to SBS 2008. > But SBS 2008 networks seem to be single-NIC networks thus exposing > all the SBS clients to the WAN interface. > > This argues that some kind of firewall appliance is needed. For small > LANs (<10 clients) the cost of such an appliance can be a > deal-breaker. > > Does anyone have recommendations about such appliances for small LANs? > Do they require subscriptions? > Do they require CAL-type licensing? > > I've spent quite a bit of time looking into this and haven't wound up > knowing anything more than when I started. I need to understand real > operating costs of these devices. > > All I'm seeing out there is a bunch of marketing slime. > > TIA > -- > BilBo
From: Jim on 22 Jul 2010 13:48 On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:20:58 -0500, Bilbo <wlp<faux>fake<at>rubbish.domain.org> wrote: >Running SBS 2003 SP2 but am considering "upgrade" to SBS 2008. >But SBS 2008 networks seem to be single-NIC networks thus exposing >all the SBS clients to the WAN interface. > >This argues that some kind of firewall appliance is needed. For small >LANs (<10 clients) the cost of such an appliance can be a >deal-breaker. > >Does anyone have recommendations about such appliances for small LANs? >Do they require subscriptions? >Do they require CAL-type licensing? > >I've spent quite a bit of time looking into this and haven't wound up >knowing anything more than when I started. I need to understand real >operating costs of these devices. > >All I'm seeing out there is a bunch of marketing slime. > >TIA I think it depends what you're trying to block. If you're trying to block viruses and spam then the Baracuda stuff is good, but expensive. If you're just trying to prevent hacks then you should be fine with a decent firewalled router - we use Cisco 877 units on all our SBS2008 sites, with NAT, and it's pretty robust when used with a good config. These cost around �350. Just my 2p. Jim
From: Leythos on 22 Jul 2010 14:09 In article <e2vg461ma5l23mru9bu14krtdjkcanktsc(a)4ax.com>, Bilbo says... > Running SBS 2003 SP2 but am considering "upgrade" to SBS 2008. > But SBS 2008 networks seem to be single-NIC networks thus exposing > all the SBS clients to the WAN interface. > > This argues that some kind of firewall appliance is needed. For small > LANs (<10 clients) the cost of such an appliance can be a > deal-breaker. > > Does anyone have recommendations about such appliances for small LANs? > Do they require subscriptions? > Do they require CAL-type licensing? > > I've spent quite a bit of time looking into this and haven't wound up > knowing anything more than when I started. I need to understand real > operating costs of these devices. > > All I'm seeing out there is a bunch of marketing slime. > I never install SBS, any version, without a firewall appliance, and I don't mean one of those crappy NAT routers that pretends to be a firewall. Today, unlike 10 years ago, firewall appliances do so much more than just detect attacks or filter, they often come with anti-spam, anti- malware, content blocking, web filters, etc.... A reasonable firewall for a small company, that is hosting their own email, will run about $1400, but a dirt cheap one would cost about $550 with the filtering services. I buy WatchGuard because I've used about everything on the market and they just seem to have it going right all these years. I have more than 80 different WG appliances in the field and a few of them are 7+ years old and still working (although unsupported, end of lifed). -- You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that. Trust yourself. spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
From: Leythos on 22 Jul 2010 14:10 In article <tv0h46106uuf0et0ut3he7hm1ih743g3j9(a)4ax.com>, jim(a)nospam.com says... > > On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:20:58 -0500, Bilbo > <wlp<faux>fake<at>rubbish.domain.org> wrote: > > >Running SBS 2003 SP2 but am considering "upgrade" to SBS 2008. > >But SBS 2008 networks seem to be single-NIC networks thus exposing > >all the SBS clients to the WAN interface. > > > >This argues that some kind of firewall appliance is needed. For small > >LANs (<10 clients) the cost of such an appliance can be a > >deal-breaker. > > > >Does anyone have recommendations about such appliances for small LANs? > >Do they require subscriptions? > >Do they require CAL-type licensing? > > > >I've spent quite a bit of time looking into this and haven't wound up > >knowing anything more than when I started. I need to understand real > >operating costs of these devices. > > > >All I'm seeing out there is a bunch of marketing slime. > > > >TIA > > > > I think it depends what you're trying to block. If you're trying to > block viruses and spam then the Baracuda stuff is good, but expensive. > If you're just trying to prevent hacks then you should be fine with a > decent firewalled router - we use Cisco 877 units on all our SBS2008 > sites, with NAT, and it's pretty robust when used with a good config. > These cost around £350. > > Just my 2p. > > > > Jim Most firewalls have anti-spam/anti-virus add-on services that are just as effective as the Barracuda and a LOT cheaper. -- You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that. Trust yourself. spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
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