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From: Don McKenzie on 16 Jun 2010 16:49

From time magazine:

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1995615,00.html

The concept of government-backed web censorship is usually associated
with nations where human rights and freedom of speech are routinely
curtailed. But if Canberra's plans for a mandatory Internet filter go
ahead, Australia may soon become the first Western democracy to join the
ranks of Iran, China and a handful of other nations where access to the
Internet is restricted by the state.

Cheers Don...



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From: keithr on 17 Jun 2010 01:18
On 17/06/2010 6:49 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:
>
> From time magazine:
>
> http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1995615,00.html
>
> The concept of government-backed web censorship is usually associated
> with nations where human rights and freedom of speech are routinely
> curtailed. But if Canberra's plans for a mandatory Internet filter go
> ahead, Australia may soon become the first Western democracy to join the
> ranks of Iran, China and a handful of other nations where access to the
> Internet is restricted by the state.
>
> Cheers Don...

It is a bad idea that should not be allowed to happen, but
hyperventilating and comparing it to repressive political filters does
not help the cause.
From: John Tserkezis on 17 Jun 2010 04:05
David Eather wrote:

> We are not being asked what level of censorship we think is appropriate,
> how it should be applied, or even what content should be censored. This
> is very, very bad. Heaven help us if we get a truly corrupt government.

Censorship is NOT about what level you're going to be happy with.
You don't get a say in it, for any reason. That's not how it works.
There is no "for the better good for the people", that's not what it's
about. It's a very efficient manner of crowd control, arguably better
than religion, especially now that less than 100% of the population
follow the official religion of the nation.

It happens, and most of the time you don't even realise it. You may
not see that now, because you're not living under a cone of silence, and
are in full awareness (well, mostly) of what's going on.
Once you're obscured by the goings-on that no longer concern you, since
you don't know it's happening, you live blissfully unaware.

Talk to people who have lived (past tense) under that regime, and
they'll tell you that things could be happening across the road
(literally) from where they live and not even know it.
From: dmm on 17 Jun 2010 11:22
On 17/06/2010 3:18 PM, keithr wrote:
> On 17/06/2010 6:49 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:
>>
>> From time magazine:
>>
>> http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1995615,00.html
>>
>> The concept of government-backed web censorship is usually associated
>> with nations where human rights and freedom of speech are routinely
>> curtailed. But if Canberra's plans for a mandatory Internet filter go
>> ahead, Australia may soon become the first Western democracy to join the
>> ranks of Iran, China and a handful of other nations where access to the
>> Internet is restricted by the state.
>>
>> Cheers Don...
>
> It is a bad idea that should not be allowed to happen, but
> hyperventilating and comparing it to repressive political filters does
> not help the cause.

Talking about it on these ngs doesn't get to the people who need to
listen. Write to your local Federal MP and let them know what you think
of this proposal. Get to know your local members. Talk to them in their
offices, or if you see them when they're out and about. Remind them
about the repressive regimes (and deaths)that have eventuated after
governments have extended their controls over the population.

And ask your Federal member if they really want to be remembered for
passing legislation that helps to turn Australia into a police state.

Also, there's no guarantee that the Libs will can the internet filter if
they win government either.

If enough voters let their MPs know how they feel, then perhaps, just
perhaps, your representatives will change their minds.

And also make sure that they kill the proposal to log all your web
brousing and communications at the same time.

Unfortunately we don't have any guaranteed human rights, freedom of
speech, or pretty much any other rights in Australia.

Bring on the election.

Never thought I'd turn political.
From: Rod Speed on 17 Jun 2010 11:49
John Tserkezis wrote:
> David Eather wrote:
>
>> We are not being asked what level of censorship we think is
>> appropriate, how it should be applied, or even what content should
>> be censored. This is very, very bad. Heaven help us if we get a
>> truly corrupt government.
>
> Censorship is NOT about what level you're going to be happy with.
> You don't get a say in it, for any reason. That's not how it works.
> There is no "for the better good for the people", that's not what it's
> about. It's a very efficient manner of crowd control, arguably better
> than religion, especially now that less than 100% of the population
> follow the official religion of the nation.
>
> It happens, and most of the time you don't even realise it. You may
> not see that now, because you're not living under a cone of silence,
> and are in full awareness (well, mostly) of what's going on.
> Once you're obscured by the goings-on that no longer concern you,
> since you don't know it's happening, you live blissfully unaware.
>
> Talk to people who have lived (past tense) under that regime, and
> they'll tell you that things could be happening across the road
> (literally) from where they live and not even know it.

Mindless conspiracy theory with this country.


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