From: hamilton on

I have been asked to build a digital to analog circuit.

The flow sensor:
http://www.gemssensors.com/uploadedFiles/Literature/Spec_Sheets/FT210_1124.pdf

has a digital pulse output proportional to the flow.

I would like to create an analog detector, so when it has reached a
minimum flow rate, a logic level is triggered.

I am a firmware guy and know how to do this with a PYFMC[1].

I would like to get some suggestions on how to do this in analog.


thanks

hamilton

[1] Pick Your Favorite Micro Controller
From: John Larkin on
On Sun, 09 May 2010 13:28:51 -0600, hamilton <hamilton(a)nothere.com>
wrote:

>
>I have been asked to build a digital to analog circuit.
>
>The flow sensor:
>http://www.gemssensors.com/uploadedFiles/Literature/Spec_Sheets/FT210_1124.pdf
>
>has a digital pulse output proportional to the flow.
>
>I would like to create an analog detector, so when it has reached a
>minimum flow rate, a logic level is triggered.
>
>I am a firmware guy and know how to do this with a PYFMC[1].
>
>I would like to get some suggestions on how to do this in analog.
>
>
>thanks
>
>hamilton
>
>[1] Pick Your Favorite Micro Controller


You could use my Double-Tach circuit followed by an analog comparator.

ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/DoubleTach.jpg


Or maybe just a couple of cascaded retriggerable one-shots, if all you
need is the single underspeed indication. That's simple.


Nice looking sensor. What does it cost?

John



From: Tauno Voipio on
hamilton wrote:
>
> I have been asked to build a digital to analog circuit.
>
> The flow sensor:
> http://www.gemssensors.com/uploadedFiles/Literature/Spec_Sheets/FT210_1124.pdf
>
>
> has a digital pulse output proportional to the flow.
>
> I would like to create an analog detector, so when it has reached a
> minimum flow rate, a logic level is triggered.
>
> I am a firmware guy and know how to do this with a PYFMC[1].
>
> I would like to get some suggestions on how to do this in analog.
>
>
> thanks
>
> hamilton
>
> [1] Pick Your Favorite Micro Controller


The solution depends quite much on the required
accuracy of the detection.

An analog approach would be a monostable for
constant-width pulses, smoothing the pulse
train to a DC level, and finally comparing it
against a threshold voltage. The achievable
precision and stability are modest.

A digital approach would include a monostable
set for the threshold interval, and a latch
to capture the previous monostable output at
next triggering instant.

PYFMC controlled by a crystal may be the most
cost-effective solution for good accuracy.

--

Tauno Voipio
tauno voipio (at) iki fi
From: Jan Panteltje on
On a sunny day (Sun, 09 May 2010 13:28:51 -0600) it happened hamilton
<hamilton(a)nothere.com> wrote in <hs72dh$otf$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>:

>
>I have been asked to build a digital to analog circuit.
>
>The flow sensor:
>http://www.gemssensors.com/uploadedFiles/Literature/Spec_Sheets/FT210_1124.pdf
>
>has a digital pulse output proportional to the flow.
>
>I would like to create an analog detector, so when it has reached a
>minimum flow rate, a logic level is triggered.
>
>I am a firmware guy and know how to do this with a PYFMC[1].
>
>I would like to get some suggestions on how to do this in analog.

If it is just a pulse, one shot -> low pass -> analog comparator.
The one shot makes a fixed pulse width,
the more pusles the higher the voltage after the lowpass,
the comparator flips on a specific voltage level,
and then triggers the lever that releases the apple that falls on the detonator that triggers the nuke.

>
>thanks

YAW



>hamilton
>
>[1] Pick Your Favorite Micro Controller
>
From: hamilton on
On 5/9/2010 1:37 PM, John Larkin wrote:
> On Sun, 09 May 2010 13:28:51 -0600, hamilton<hamilton(a)nothere.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I have been asked to build a digital to analog circuit.
>>
>> The flow sensor:
>> http://www.gemssensors.com/uploadedFiles/Literature/Spec_Sheets/FT210_1124.pdf
>>
>> has a digital pulse output proportional to the flow.
>>
>> I would like to create an analog detector, so when it has reached a
>> minimum flow rate, a logic level is triggered.
>>
>> I am a firmware guy and know how to do this with a PYFMC[1].
>>
>> I would like to get some suggestions on how to do this in analog.
>>
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> hamilton
>>
>> [1] Pick Your Favorite Micro Controller
>
>
> You could use my Double-Tach circuit followed by an analog comparator.
>
> ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/DoubleTach.jpg
>
>
> Or maybe just a couple of cascaded retriggerable one-shots, if all you
> need is the single underspeed indication. That's simple.

Thanks,

Yes, underspeed is the goal.

Just an output logic level going to another micro that controls the rest
of the system.

>
>
> Nice looking sensor. What does it cost?

AAck $100 each !!!


The boss thinks he need the accuracy.

With the other comments, I will use a PYFMC [2] and just count pulses.

The data sheet states the range is 37 to 917 Hz. (.1 to 2.5 LPM).

hamilton

[2] This time I'll use an AVR.