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From: Pete on 31 May 2010 18:49 On 2010-05-31 23:31:54 +0100, Dudley Hanks said: > "Robert Coe" <bob(a)1776.COM> wrote in message > news:80d806leqf30v8ep1q2aqjgq3d3lr84asu(a)4ax.com... >> On Sun, 30 May 2010 17:26:08 GMT, "MC" <any(a)any.any> wrote: >> : Richard wrote: >> : >> : > "MC" <any(a)any.any> wrote in message >> : > news:xn0gur32t1mhtg000(a)news.virginmedia.com... >> : > > Robert Spanjaard wrote: >> : > > >> : > > > A couple of flower macros for you to enjoy (and/or critisize). >> : > > > >> : > > > They might do well in the Wallpaper Shootin too, especially 4 and >> : > > > 5. But I already submitted a different shot. >> : > > > >> : > > > http://www.arumes.com/temp/macro/ >> : > > >> : > > You should first ask yourself, as should every photographer who >> : > > wishes to put their photos on public dispaly (let alone unashemedly >> : > > publicise the websites containing said pictures), are they really >> : > > worthy of public scrutiny? You must, firstly, be your own harshest >> : > > critic and then (and only then) allow others to critcise. >> : > > >> : > > May I ask why you think these are worthy? >> : > > >> : > > MC >> : > >> : > No. If you have to ask permission to ask a question, you are not >> : > worthy of asking the question. >> : > >> : > Richard >> : >> : Hmm... I was not asking permission in the context of asking permission >> : but merely as vehicle of politeness. >> >> Politeness? You were sneering at the man's photos. Where's the politeness in >> that? >> >> Bob > > Perhaps, before posting a criticism to a public group for scrutiny, the > critic should ask himself whether or not the grammar, spelling, syntax, > tone, etc of his message is worthy of public attention... > > He really should be his own harshest critic... > > Take Care, > Dudley The OP wrote: "A couple of flower macros for you to enjoy (and/or critisize)." I enjoyed them (thanks Robert S). This is a photography newsgroup not an English lesson. -- Pete
From: John McWilliams on 31 May 2010 18:52 Pete wrote: > On 2010-05-31 23:31:54 +0100, Dudley Hanks said: > >> "Robert Coe" <bob(a)1776.COM> wrote in message >> news:80d806leqf30v8ep1q2aqjgq3d3lr84asu(a)4ax.com... >>> On Sun, 30 May 2010 17:26:08 GMT, "MC" <any(a)any.any> wrote: >>> : Richard wrote: >>> : >>> : > "MC" <any(a)any.any> wrote in message >>> : > news:xn0gur32t1mhtg000(a)news.virginmedia.com... >>> : > > Robert Spanjaard wrote: >>> : > > >>> : > > > A couple of flower macros for you to enjoy (and/or critisize). >>> : > > > >>> : > > > They might do well in the Wallpaper Shootin too, especially 4 >>> and >>> : > > > 5. But I already submitted a different shot. >>> : > > > >>> : > > > http://www.arumes.com/temp/macro/ >>> : > > >>> : > > You should first ask yourself, as should every photographer who >>> : > > wishes to put their photos on public dispaly (let alone >>> unashemedly >>> : > > publicise the websites containing said pictures), are they really >>> : > > worthy of public scrutiny? You must, firstly, be your own >>> harshest >>> : > > critic and then (and only then) allow others to critcise. >>> : > > >>> : > > May I ask why you think these are worthy? >>> : > > >>> : > > MC >>> : > >>> : > No. If you have to ask permission to ask a question, you are not >>> : > worthy of asking the question. >>> : > >>> : > Richard >>> : >>> : Hmm... I was not asking permission in the context of asking permission >>> : but merely as vehicle of politeness. >>> >>> Politeness? You were sneering at the man's photos. Where's the >>> politeness in >>> that? >>> >>> Bob >> >> Perhaps, before posting a criticism to a public group for scrutiny, >> the critic should ask himself whether or not the grammar, spelling, >> syntax, tone, etc of his message is worthy of public attention... >> >> He really should be his own harshest critic... >> >> Take Care, >> Dudley > > The OP wrote: > "A couple of flower macros for you to enjoy (and/or critisize)." > > I enjoyed them (thanks Robert S). > > This is a photography newsgroup not an English lesson. There should be an apostrophe after the word "newsgroup"....! :-) Not to criticalicate anything, though.... -- john mcwilliams
From: Robert Coe on 31 May 2010 19:17 On Mon, 31 May 2010 15:52:51 -0700, John McWilliams <jpmcw(a)comcast.net> wrote: : Pete wrote: : > On 2010-05-31 23:31:54 +0100, Dudley Hanks said: : > : >> "Robert Coe" <bob(a)1776.COM> wrote in message : >> news:80d806leqf30v8ep1q2aqjgq3d3lr84asu(a)4ax.com... : >>> On Sun, 30 May 2010 17:26:08 GMT, "MC" <any(a)any.any> wrote: : >>> : Richard wrote: : >>> : : >>> : > "MC" <any(a)any.any> wrote in message : >>> : > news:xn0gur32t1mhtg000(a)news.virginmedia.com... : >>> : > > Robert Spanjaard wrote: : >>> : > > : >>> : > > > A couple of flower macros for you to enjoy (and/or critisize). : >>> : > > > : >>> : > > > They might do well in the Wallpaper Shootin too, especially 4 : >>> and : >>> : > > > 5. But I already submitted a different shot. : >>> : > > > : >>> : > > > http://www.arumes.com/temp/macro/ : >>> : > > : >>> : > > You should first ask yourself, as should every photographer who : >>> : > > wishes to put their photos on public dispaly (let alone : >>> unashemedly : >>> : > > publicise the websites containing said pictures), are they really : >>> : > > worthy of public scrutiny? You must, firstly, be your own : >>> harshest : >>> : > > critic and then (and only then) allow others to critcise. : >>> : > > : >>> : > > May I ask why you think these are worthy? : >>> : > > : >>> : > > MC : >>> : > : >>> : > No. If you have to ask permission to ask a question, you are not : >>> : > worthy of asking the question. : >>> : > : >>> : > Richard : >>> : : >>> : Hmm... I was not asking permission in the context of asking permission : >>> : but merely as vehicle of politeness. : >>> : >>> Politeness? You were sneering at the man's photos. Where's the : >>> politeness in : >>> that? : >>> : >>> Bob : >> : >> Perhaps, before posting a criticism to a public group for scrutiny, : >> the critic should ask himself whether or not the grammar, spelling, : >> syntax, tone, etc of his message is worthy of public attention... : >> : >> He really should be his own harshest critic... : >> : >> Take Care, : >> Dudley : > : > The OP wrote: : > "A couple of flower macros for you to enjoy (and/or critisize)." : > : > I enjoyed them (thanks Robert S). : > : > This is a photography newsgroup not an English lesson. : : : There should be an apostrophe after the word "newsgroup"....! :-) Actually, the word you were groping for there is "comma". Bob
From: Dudley Hanks on 31 May 2010 19:32 "Pete" <available.on.request(a)aserver.invalid> wrote in message news:2010053123493461221-availableonrequest(a)aserverinvalid... > On 2010-05-31 23:31:54 +0100, Dudley Hanks said: > >> "Robert Coe" <bob(a)1776.COM> wrote in message >> news:80d806leqf30v8ep1q2aqjgq3d3lr84asu(a)4ax.com... >>> On Sun, 30 May 2010 17:26:08 GMT, "MC" <any(a)any.any> wrote: >>> : Richard wrote: >>> : >>> : > "MC" <any(a)any.any> wrote in message >>> : > news:xn0gur32t1mhtg000(a)news.virginmedia.com... >>> : > > Robert Spanjaard wrote: >>> : > > >>> : > > > A couple of flower macros for you to enjoy (and/or critisize). >>> : > > > >>> : > > > They might do well in the Wallpaper Shootin too, especially 4 >>> and >>> : > > > 5. But I already submitted a different shot. >>> : > > > >>> : > > > http://www.arumes.com/temp/macro/ >>> : > > >>> : > > You should first ask yourself, as should every photographer who >>> : > > wishes to put their photos on public dispaly (let alone >>> unashemedly >>> : > > publicise the websites containing said pictures), are they really >>> : > > worthy of public scrutiny? You must, firstly, be your own >>> harshest >>> : > > critic and then (and only then) allow others to critcise. >>> : > > >>> : > > May I ask why you think these are worthy? >>> : > > >>> : > > MC >>> : > >>> : > No. If you have to ask permission to ask a question, you are not >>> : > worthy of asking the question. >>> : > >>> : > Richard >>> : >>> : Hmm... I was not asking permission in the context of asking permission >>> : but merely as vehicle of politeness. >>> >>> Politeness? You were sneering at the man's photos. Where's the >>> politeness in >>> that? >>> >>> Bob >> >> Perhaps, before posting a criticism to a public group for scrutiny, the >> critic should ask himself whether or not the grammar, spelling, syntax, >> tone, etc of his message is worthy of public attention... >> >> He really should be his own harshest critic... >> >> Take Care, >> Dudley > > The OP wrote: > "A couple of flower macros for you to enjoy (and/or critisize)." > > I enjoyed them (thanks Robert S). > > This is a photography newsgroup not an English lesson. > > -- > Pete > True, but it's a RECREATIONAL photo group... The idea behind usenet, as far as I understand, is for people to exchange ideas, techniques, etc, so each can learn from the experience / talents of others. The critic seemed to suggest that some arbitrary standard of proficiency needs to be attained prior to exhibiting ones work, yet displayed a woeful disregard for certain accepted linguistic standards. If others need meet his idea of graphic excellence in order to be welcomed, then perhaps he needs to live up to the standards others like for ease of understanding. "What's good for the goose, ..." Take Care, Dudley
From: John McWilliams on 31 May 2010 20:20
Robert Coe wrote: > On Mon, 31 May 2010 15:52:51 -0700, John McWilliams <jpmcw(a)comcast.net> wrote: > : Pete wrote: > : > "A couple of flower macros for you to enjoy (and/or critisize)." > : > > : > I enjoyed them (thanks Robert S). > : > > : > This is a photography newsgroup not an English lesson. > : > : > : There should be an apostrophe after the word "newsgroup"....! :-) > > Actually, the word you were groping for there is "comma". No groping at all: Just seeing if anyone knew the difference and was paying attention; I wasn't! .... :-) Besides, you left out the more interesting target: > Not to criticalicate anything, though.... -- john mcwilliams |