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From: VanguardLH on 14 Dec 2009 23:17
kraut wrote:

> Free Fax Program For Windows XP ??

As others mentioned, Windows XP comes with a Fax service. That requires you
have a fax-capable modem and a POTs (telco) line. But why not use free
online fax services? If you have the fax hardware and a phone line then,
sure, use the Fax service to send your faxes. The problem is that to
receive faxes means you must configure the Fax software to run constantly so
it can monitor for incoming calls - which also means you need a separate
line for your fax calls so you can receive normal phone calls without the
fax software picking up the line.

For sending e-mails, I use FaxZero. They have a limit of 2 faxes per day
and up to 3 pages per fax. They add a cover page promoting their service so
it is doable for personal use but not for business use.

For receiving e-mails, get a free account at eFax. You do have to install
their viewer software because they send a custom TIF file that contains the
received fax (I don't know of a viewer that can show their .tif attachment).
The fax sender calls your assigned eFax number and their fax gets delivered
to your e-mail account.

You use a webform at FaxZero to send faxes. You receive faxes via e-mail.
No fax hardware or phone line needed. As long as your current host
(whichever one you happen to be using) can browse the web and you can look
at your e-mail (even if using just the webmail interface to your account)
you can do faxing.
From: Man-wai Chang to The Door (24000bps) on 15 Dec 2009 22:54
Free tools are usually bundled with the fax modem. Anyway, google "bvrp
classic phone tools" (not exactly freeware, but .... he he he...)

> Free Fax Program For Windows XP ??
> Anyone know of a goop one??


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From: Man-wai Chang to The Door (24000bps) on 15 Dec 2009 22:56
On 15-Dec-09 12:17, VanguardLH wrote:
> kraut wrote:
>
>> Free Fax Program For Windows XP ??
>
> As others mentioned, Windows XP comes with a Fax service. That requires you
> have a fax-capable modem and a POTs (telco) line. But why not use free

You need WinXP Professional! WinXP Home doesn't have it. Same rule for
Vi$ta (Business & Ultimate).

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From: VanguardLH on 16 Dec 2009 03:44
David H. Lipman wrote:

> VanguardLH
>
>> David H. Lipman wrote:
>>
>>> Sensible ?
>>> If losing your privacy for ease is sensible - yes.
>>> Keep your privacy and don't use third party services -- ESPECIALLY free ones.
>>
>> How many users of encrypted fax have you even heard of? Oh yes, faxing to
>> someone's company fax machine sitting in a cubicle that anyone walking by
>> can look at or make a copy is oh-so much more secure. Haven't you ever been
>> at a company and noticed where they put the fax machines? You think they
>> are really inside a locked office and there is some guard at the door that
>> makes folks sign out the faxes they pick up? Puh-leese.
>
> You are talking to the WRONG person. Someone who has used a FAX connected
> to a STE :-)
> Anyway... what you indicated was a situation where the fax is located
> with one organization. All personnel are agents of said organization.

Yep, similar reasoning for the minimum wage waitress/waiter to whom you
trust your credit card or give out their credit card over a phone call which
obviously anyone can overhear. I see so many folks concerned about security
and then just casually toss it aside.

So you trust the fax you send to a company to every employee there,
including the janitors, cleaning crew (that is typically contracted from
*outside* the company), contract employees, visitors, and so on. Okay, glad
you feel warm and cozy but I don't see a fax that is laying in the output
tray of a fax machine left open to general traffic at a company as secure.
Do you have you bank fax your monthly statement to your fax machine at work
where all your coworkers could see it? If you had a confidentiality
agreement with an partner in which a project is to remain secret, are you
going to have them fax you anything about the project where anyone outside
your department can see it?

> Using a third party free service is basically giving YOUR peronal (or business)
> information over to a third party (stranger).

As opposed to sending e-mails to unknown receiving mail hosts? Yes, you
*can* encrypt your e-mails but even you know that encryption has not caught
on in the user populace.

No, I wouldn't recommend sending credit card info, social security number,
or other sensitive data to a 3rd party online faxing service. However, I
don't do that with regular faxing, either. As I recall, there is a way to
encrypt faxes so what is received looks like a big blob of gumbled black
blots on the page (but then the recipient has to have a similar setup to
decrypt those faxes). Unless you *pay* for online faxing, I would not
recommend them for business purposes, anyway. As I mentioned, FaxZero puts
their own cover page on your outbound fax (which means they add their spam)
and obviously that would would be inappropriate for business use. tpc.int
is ran by a volunteer group and isn't reliable. However, I also find
data/fax modems in hosts using faxing software not the most reliable
solution for *business* faxing, either.

I saw not the slightest glimmer that the OP was considering his faxing for
business purposes. If it was for business, they probably wouldn't be (or
shouldn't be) asking about free fax software. The Fax Service in Windows XP
is *not* sufficient for business use as it has no decent organization,
tracking, retry, or resume functions.

Faxing is not a secured mechanism of transferring information. Doesn't
matter if you use an online service or use your own fax gear. However you
fax, consider its transmission no more secure than driving your car over to
your friend's house and putting a letter in their street-side postal
mailbox. You know, the same one in which you receive your monthly bank
statements and which has no lock on it to prevent anyone but the postman and
you to have access.

Personally, only someone stuck in the dinosaur age of computing wants to
send or receive faxes. The only time I get stuck faxing anything is when
the gov't is involved but we all know they are behind in technology. Anyone
that claims the paper from a fax is any more legitimate than a printout of
an e-mail simply hasn't a clue how the data is transmitted or handled.
Often just telling the other party who wants a fax that you have no means of
doing that (even if you did) should be enough to convince them to accept
your information via e-mail. With e-mail, you can encrypt the e-mail or
just the attached document.
From: VanguardLH on 16 Dec 2009 03:48
Man-wai Chang wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> kraut wrote:
>>
>>> Free Fax Program For Windows XP ??
>>
>> As others mentioned, Windows XP comes with a Fax service. That requires you
>> have a fax-capable modem and a POTs (telco) line.
>
> You need WinXP Professional! WinXP Home doesn't have it.

I'd have to Google around but, as I recall, the default install of Windows
XP Home Edition does not include the Fax Service; however, you can install
it later.

The instructions at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306550 are for *both*
the Pro and Home editions of Windows XP.

> Same rule for Vi$ta (Business & Ultimate).

Never bothered with using Vista except when forced and then that was in a
business environment where business-grade fax machines were used.
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