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From: .. on 28 Jun 2010 17:45
Dear Everyone,
as you know the price of the Oil is more and more increasing, while
the oil supply is decreasing. Moreover Oil is
causing wars, terror, oil spills, a lot of greenhouse gases. Do you
know that there is plenty of natural gas ? The
supply will last for many decades, probably for hundred years. A lot
of methane (natural gas) is found as shale gas,
a lot more will come from methane hidrates. Natural gas is causing
much less greenhouse gases and since it is found
locally, it will not cause any wars or terror. It will create jobs in
your own country and not in the middle east.
Do you know that by converting your car to natural gas, you can save a
lot of money ? It costs a lot lot less. You
may say that there are not enough gas stations, but you can fuel at
home* over night. You also should convert your
car to dual fuel, that means if your natural gas tank is empty you can
switch to petrol, until you find a gas station.
And the more people switch to natural gas, the more natural gas
stations will be built, otherwise they can not earn
money. Do you know that in Argentina there are almost 2 million CNG
(compressed natural gas vehicles), also in Pakistan
and Brazil there are more than 1,5 million CNG vehicles, whereas in
the US there are not even 200000 of them, although
most of the shale gas is found in the USA.

Sources:
http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2007-05-08-natural-gas-usat_N.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_gas_vehicle
* http://www.tulsagastech.com/phill.html
From: robert bristow-johnson on 28 Jun 2010 23:42

i just connect the carb to my butthole with a tube. all the natural
gas i need to run my car.

who says we have an energy crisis?

r b-j


On Jun 28, 5:45 pm, ".." <sustainable.future...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Everyone,
> as you know the price of the Oil is more and more increasing, while
> the oil supply is decreasing. Moreover Oil is
> causing wars, terror, oil spills, a lot of greenhouse gases. Do you
> know that there is plenty of natural gas ? The
> supply will last for many decades, probably for hundred years. A lot
> of methane (natural gas) is found as shale gas,
> a lot more will come from methane hidrates. Natural gas is causing
> much less greenhouse gases and since it is found
> locally, it will not cause any wars or terror. It will create jobs in
> your own country and not in the middle east.
> Do you know that by converting your car to natural gas, you can save a
> lot of money ? It costs a lot lot less. You
> may say that there are not enough gas stations, but you can fuel at
> home* over night. You also should convert your
> car to dual fuel, that means if your natural gas tank is empty you can
> switch to petrol, until you find a gas station.
> And the more people switch to natural gas, the more natural gas
> stations will be built, otherwise they can not earn
> money. Do you know that in Argentina there are almost 2 million CNG
> (compressed natural gas vehicles), also in Pakistan
> and Brazil there are more than 1,5 million CNG vehicles, whereas in
> the US there are not even 200000 of them, although
> most of the shale gas is found in the USA.
>
> Sources:http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2007-05-08-natural-gas-usat_N..htmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_gas_vehicle
> *    http://www.tulsagastech.com/phill.html

From: Rune Allnor on 29 Jun 2010 07:43
On 29 Jun, 05:42, robert bristow-johnson <r...(a)audioimagination.com>
wrote:
> i just connect the carb to my butthole with a tube.  all the natural
> gas i need to run my car.

Disregarding the implementational aspects of that particular
approach: What numbers apply? How large quantities of these
gases are emitted per hour or day? How far would a car be able
to run on the quantity of gas emitted by one person in one day?

I never cease to be astonished by the advocates' of such approaces
neglection of these kinds of numbers...

Rune
From: Jerry Avins on 29 Jun 2010 07:49
On 6/29/2010 7:43 AM, Rune Allnor wrote:
> On 29 Jun, 05:42, robert bristow-johnson<r...(a)audioimagination.com>
> wrote:
>> i just connect the carb to my butthole with a tube. all the natural
>> gas i need to run my car.
>
> Disregarding the implementational aspects of that particular
> approach: What numbers apply? How large quantities of these
> gases are emitted per hour or day? How far would a car be able
> to run on the quantity of gas emitted by one person in one day?
>
> I never cease to be astonished by the advocates' of such approaces
> neglection of these kinds of numbers...

Actually, Robert has a pet cow.

Jerry
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From: Rune Allnor on 29 Jun 2010 08:30
On 29 Jun, 13:49, Jerry Avins <j...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
> On 6/29/2010 7:43 AM, Rune Allnor wrote:
>
> > On 29 Jun, 05:42, robert bristow-johnson<r...(a)audioimagination.com>
> > wrote:
> >> i just connect the carb to my butthole with a tube.  all the natural
> >> gas i need to run my car.
>
> > Disregarding the implementational aspects of that particular
> > approach: What numbers apply? How large quantities of these
> > gases are emitted per hour or day? How far would a car be able
> > to run on the quantity of gas emitted by one person in one day?
>
> > I never cease to be astonished by the advocates' of such approaces
> > neglection of these kinds of numbers...
>
> Actually, Robert has a pet cow.

I always knew he had the odd pet peeves, but pet *cows*...?
As a practical matter, wouldn't the larger car needed to
bring the cow cancel the benefit of the cow's higher gas
output?

Rune
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