GUIs - A Modest Proposal
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From: Gregory Ewing on 11 Jun 2010 22:13 Steven D'Aprano wrote: > This > reminds me of time-travellers suffering from "time lag" in the wonderful > novel "To Say Nothing Of The Dog" by Connie Willis. One of the many excellent reasons why Guido keeps tight control over the keys to his time machine. Time-lagged joyriding teenagers careening around the space-time continuum can be quite a hazard. -- Greg
From: Steven D'Aprano on 11 Jun 2010 22:34 On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:13:44 +1200, Gregory Ewing wrote: > Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> This >> reminds me of time-travellers suffering from "time lag" in the >> wonderful novel "To Say Nothing Of The Dog" by Connie Willis. > > One of the many excellent reasons why Guido keeps tight control over the > keys to his time machine. Time-lagged joyriding teenagers careening > around the space-time continuum can be quite a hazard. Imagine the havoc if RantingRick accidentally goes back in time and deactivates the Timbot. -- Steven
From: Stephen Hansen on 11 Jun 2010 23:34 On 6/11/10 7:11 PM, Gregory Ewing wrote: > Stephen Hansen wrote: > >> There's very little you can do with pywin32 that you can't do with >> ctypes. > > Except, apparently, use it from another module in the stdlib. :-( > Yeah. I get the policy in general, a proliferation of ctypes stuff could be very bad -- but if code is very careful with type-checking and stuff, it should be possible to get an exception, I'd hope. Otherwise it makes certain windows-workarounds very problematic. You basically /have/ to write a C extension :| -- Stephen Hansen ... Also: Ixokai ... Mail: me+list/python (AT) ixokai (DOT) io ... Blog: http://meh.ixokai.io/
From: Mark Lawrence on 12 Jun 2010 02:25 On 12/06/2010 03:34, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:13:44 +1200, Gregory Ewing wrote: > >> Steven D'Aprano wrote: >>> This >>> reminds me of time-travellers suffering from "time lag" in the >>> wonderful novel "To Say Nothing Of The Dog" by Connie Willis. >> >> One of the many excellent reasons why Guido keeps tight control over the >> keys to his time machine. Time-lagged joyriding teenagers careening >> around the space-time continuum can be quite a hazard. > > Imagine the havoc if RantingRick accidentally goes back in time and > deactivates the Timbot. > Not a chance, if Dr Who can take on baddies like the daleks, yetis and cybermen Ranting Rick would be a piece of cake. :) My 13 year old will be glued to BBC1 tonight at 18:45 BST to see his hero (Dr Who that is) in action. Down with baddies. Mark Lawrence.
From: Martin v. Loewis on 12 Jun 2010 03:21
> Yeah. I get the policy in general, a proliferation of ctypes stuff could > be very bad -- but if code is very careful with type-checking and stuff, > it should be possible to get an exception, I'd hope. Only if you can live with the respective module not being available all the time. The issue is not that you may mistakes in the ctypes code, thus allowing users to crash Python. The issue is that if users remove ctypes (which they may want to do because it's not trustworthy), then your module will stop working (unless you have a fallback for the case that ctypes is unavailable). In general, it's undesirable that absence of some module causes a different module to stop working in the standard library, except that absence of Tkinter clearly causes IDLE and turtle to stop working. > Otherwise it makes certain windows-workarounds very problematic. You > basically /have/ to write a C extension :| That's not problematic at all, for the standard library. Just write that C extension. Regards, Martin |