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From: The Translucent Amoebae on 28 Nov 2009 10:41
Is there something inherently wrong with the .pdf encryptor on
TextEdit
Or The Preview .pdf reader...?

i'm able to made .pdfs that seem OK with TextEdit and Then Preview is
able to display them...
But then they'll...
( All Cases ! ? ( Or Just very large ones 41 pages or more ??? ) )
....Crash Semi-Unexpectedly...?

( It's not just one document or several, its a bunch of them, and
rerendering the same document over & over will cause the same
failure... in the same place...
Several re-saves and cutting and snipping the documents do not seem to
lead to an obvious solution was to which page or section is causing
the crashes...??? )

Sometimes it will seem like it crashes on a particular page, and then
when i go back to recheck this,
It will appear to be -that when i move towards -that page- it will
crash a few pages before that in the next test...?
Or i don't even have to display -that page- ... But only scroll to it
with the side bar, without selecting it...
As if -merely trying to render it- will cause the crash....

=BUT= If i quickly scroll past -that page- or jump to the bottom, and
scroll up,
-that page- will sometimes ( not always ) allow itself to be rendered
and display without incident.

These documents that are crashing have considerable formatting and
many crazy fonts, but the pages that are causing it to crash do not
have attributes ( ? ) or characters ( ? ) that the trouble free pages
also contain...???

Is there some known problem or glitch with .pdfs that can be -worked
around-..???

Thanx!
From: Tim Murray on 28 Nov 2009 13:38
The Translucent Amoebae wrote:
> These documents that are crashing have considerable formatting and
> many crazy fonts, but the pages that are causing it to crash do not
> have attributes ( ? ) or characters ( ? ) that the trouble free pages
> also contain...???
>

Not sure what the inserted question marks are for, but in any case, defective
fonts -- which you find on usenet quite often -- can do this. A major class
of these are the conversions, such as TrueType to Type 1 or vice versa. But
even a nonpirated font that's gone bad can do this.

From: AES on 28 Nov 2009 14:44
In article
<5d4d47ae-70b6-4649-b4fa-be68055087ae(a)g22g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
The Translucent Amoebae <transamoebae(a)seanet.com> wrote:

> Is there something inherently wrong with the .pdf encryptor on
> TextEdit
> Or The Preview .pdf reader...?

I do a _lot_ of composition and editing in TextEdit (rtf format), then
do Print >> Save as PDF to capture final PDF version, and encounter very
few if any glitches. (MacBook from 2007 era, still using OS 10.4.11.)

I've recently been capturing more text from web pages viewed on Safari
using the Services >> TextEdit >> New Window Containing Selection
approach, and sometimes encounter formatting or printing problems with
this (lines partially cut off at bottom of page, etc). I think these
may result from the copied text having invisible or otherwise weird
formatting characters embedded in it.

Cure is usually to do some global reformatting (of Font, Spacing, Ruler,
etc) and maybe do each of these a couple of times. In worst case,
convert document format to text, save the .txt file, re-open it, convert
back to rtf (the original formatting is of course lost at this point),
and through in enough spacing and font resizing to suit your needs.
From: Erik Richard Sørensen on 28 Nov 2009 22:53

The Translucent Amoebae wrote:
> Is there something inherently wrong with the .pdf encryptor on
> TextEdit
> Or The Preview .pdf reader...?
> [...]

Et tu Brute.:-(! - Preview is not a 'high-class' reader or anything like
that. Sometimes I can make it crash on a 128x128pxl icon preview and
sometimes on a one and a half page PDF file too.

Gosh! I wish that Apple would stop develo9ping it or at least make it
better for viewing pictures and then let Adobe keep up with PDF readings
through the Adobe Reader...

Cheers, Erik Richard

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