From: Bruce on
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:56:44 -0700, Paul Furman <paul-@-edgehill.net>
wrote:

>Rich wrote:
>> On Jul 19, 10:15 pm, Paul Furman<pa...@-edgehill.net> wrote:
>>> RichA wrote:
>>>> New Panasonic G1's being sold off at Henry's for $449.99. And the best
>>>> thing? No crappy Chinese 14-42mm kit lenses. The kits still come
>>>> with the 14-45mm. Considering a separate body and lens will sell for
>>>> more used on Ebay, that's a good deal. No more excuses, P&S'rs!
>>>
>>> Yeah but you have to get the red one<g>.
>>> $693 US black with 14-42.
>>>
>>> Who has a good price with the 20mm pancake in black?
>>
>> Best price? Buy a G1 and kit lens, keep or dump the kit lens. Buy a
>> GF1 + 20mm, sell the GF1 on Ebay. I think you'd come out in positive
>> territory.
>
>GF1 looks like a better deal if you want a camera with the pancake.


G1 is a better deal if you want an EVF. I'm happy with my GF1 but
there are times when I would prefer a G1 simply because it has an EVF.

Of course I would prefer an SLR with a good reflex viewfinder to
either, but that isn't what we are discussing here. If it was, I
would suggest an Olympus E-620, which is not really that much bigger
than a Panasonic G1 but is an SLR.



From: Peter on
"Paul Furman" <paul-@-edgehill.net> wrote in message
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> RichA wrote:
>> New Panasonic G1's being sold off at Henry's for $449.99. And the best
>> thing? No crappy Chinese 14-42mm kit lenses. The kits still come
>> with the 14-45mm. Considering a separate body and lens will sell for
>> more used on Ebay, that's a good deal. No more excuses, P&S'rs!
>
> Yeah but you have to get the red one <g>.
> $693 US black with 14-42.


They must be trying to get red of them.

Trying to look red faced at that comment
--
Peter

From: Paul Furman on
Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:56:44 -0700, Paul Furman<paul-@-edgehill.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Rich wrote:
>>> On Jul 19, 10:15 pm, Paul Furman<pa...@-edgehill.net> wrote:
>>>> RichA wrote:
>>>>> New Panasonic G1's being sold off at Henry's for $449.99. And the best
>>>>> thing? No crappy Chinese 14-42mm kit lenses. The kits still come
>>>>> with the 14-45mm. Considering a separate body and lens will sell for
>>>>> more used on Ebay, that's a good deal. No more excuses, P&S'rs!
>>>>
>>>> Yeah but you have to get the red one<g>.
>>>> $693 US black with 14-42.
>>>>
>>>> Who has a good price with the 20mm pancake in black?
>>>
>>> Best price? Buy a G1 and kit lens, keep or dump the kit lens. Buy a
>>> GF1 + 20mm, sell the GF1 on Ebay. I think you'd come out in positive
>>> territory.
>>
>> GF1 looks like a better deal if you want a camera with the pancake.
>
> G1 is a better deal if you want an EVF. I'm happy with my GF1 but
> there are times when I would prefer a G1 simply because it has an EVF.

Well there's the GH1 which has the video that the G1 lacks but then
that's $1,200 with a huge kit lens :-( Both seem too bulky to interest
me as a DSLR alternative. I would be tempted to get the GF1 but the
video is only 720p and yeah the add-on viewfinder brings the price back
up, plus at $800 with the pancake lens it's still not $450 but is damn
near as compact as the shirt-pocket sized LX2. So I haven't got any of them.


> Of course I would prefer an SLR with a good reflex viewfinder to
> either, but that isn't what we are discussing here. If it was, I
> would suggest an Olympus E-620, which is not really that much bigger
> than a Panasonic G1 but is an SLR.
From: Bruce on
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:22:42 -0700, Paul Furman <paul-@-edgehill.net>
wrote:
>Bruce wrote:
>> G1 is a better deal if you want an EVF. I'm happy with my GF1 but
>> there are times when I would prefer a G1 simply because it has an EVF.
>
>Well there's the GH1 which has the video that the G1 lacks but then
>that's $1,200 with a huge kit lens :-( Both seem too bulky to interest
>me as a DSLR alternative.


The G2 has HD video, but it's only 720p.


>I would be tempted to get the GF1 but the
>video is only 720p and yeah the add-on viewfinder brings the price back
>up, plus at $800 with the pancake lens it's still not $450 but is damn
>near as compact as the shirt-pocket sized LX2. So I haven't got any of them.


The GF1 is even bulkier with the 14-45mm. The 20mm is a lovely lens
but you obviously cannot use it for everything. I carry both lenses
all the time, but would never claim they were pocket sized.

The new LX5 looks good with a 24-90mm (35mm equivalent) f/2-2.8 Leica
branded lens.


From: Rich on
Paul Furman <paul-@-edgehill.net> wrote in
news:J6idnUxQk6gZjdjRnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d(a)giganews.com:

> Rich wrote:
>> On Jul 19, 10:15 pm, Paul Furman<pa...@-edgehill.net> wrote:
>>> RichA wrote:
>>>> New Panasonic G1's being sold off at Henry's for $449.99. And the best
>>>> thing? No crappy Chinese 14-42mm kit lenses. The kits still come
>>>> with the 14-45mm. Considering a separate body and lens will sell for
>>>> more used on Ebay, that's a good deal. No more excuses, P&S'rs!
>>>
>>> Yeah but you have to get the red one<g>.
>>> $693 US black with 14-42.
>>>
>>> Who has a good price with the 20mm pancake in black?
>>
>> Best price? Buy a G1 and kit lens, keep or dump the kit lens. Buy a
>> GF1 + 20mm, sell the GF1 on Ebay. I think you'd come out in positive
>> territory.
>
> GF1 looks like a better deal if you want a camera with the pancake.
>

It's a very good deal, but I need the high res viewfinder of the G1.