From: me here on
me here wrote:

> DManzaluni wrote:
>
> > On Apr 13, 6:05�pm, Pen <nos...(a)nospam.net> wrote:
> > > On 4/13/2010 5:35 PM, DManzaluni wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > I have a Dell 8200 on which the Truemobile 1150 network card
> > > > died
> > >
> > > > I installed an Intel ProSet wireless card which I rescued from a
> > > > dead HP laptop and downloaded the Intel drivers from the HP
> > > > site.
> > >
> > > > Is there any reason why the Dell shouldn't see it as a network
> > > > card? It installed the drivers but the OS cant see that there
> > > > is a network card there
> > >
> > > > I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the drivers and it
> > > > still wont work. �The software loads properly but the computer
> > > > still cant see that there is any hardware there!
> > >
> > > > Does anyone have any ideas on this one please? �There isnt any
> > > > serious possibility that HP adapted this card in some way when
> > > > buying quantities of them from whoever they buy them from is
> > > > there?
> > >
> > > I seem to recall a post elsewhere that involved the proset
> > > and the problem was solved by getting the Dell driver rather
> > > than the Intel
> > > one.http://search.dell.com/results.aspx?k=R134881.EXE+&cat=prod&c=
> > > us &l=en...
> >
> > Sorry for that last message: Two things went wrong: Firstly the
> > lengthy Dell installation programs stopped abruptly at the end with
> > a message saying this computer didnt support this hardware.
> >
> > Then, as I cant see any reason I shouldnt put my own network card in
> > my own computer, I tried installing the driver anyway. It then told
> > me that the 2200BG doesnt have the necessary drivers in the location
> > where I had put them.
> >
> > Were these problems encountered in the other thread and does anyone
> > remember what cured these problems please?
>
> Are you sure that Intel card works?

Just to follow up, the Proset was used in the Compaq 2000 onwards range
of laptops.

From my recollection, the card has a driver AND a set of software from
HP which handles the mechanical on/off button function for that ( and
the volume controls from memory).

So that Intel card appears to be hardware specific and may not work in
the Dell.

However, it will work with Linux Ubuntu without the extra module, so
maybe there's a work around.

To see if it is compatible load Ubuntu in trial mode on the Dell - and
if compatible it WILL work without the aditional utility.

If not, Ubuntu will give a decent message in the Queen's english which
may shed some light on the situation.


From: Jeff Liebermann on
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 12:04:32 -0700 (PDT), DManzaluni
<dmanzaluni(a)googlemail.com> wrote:

>This is XP updated to pre-SP3.

Do your updates with a wired ethernet card. It's both easier and less
prone to screwups.

>What worried me was that this Inspiron
>8200 wont work with any other cards either, even a PCMCIA linksys card
>and Netgear 511 cards which have worked before and whose software was
>installed. The computer cant see ANY Network card and whatever I do,
>nothing shows up in device manager properly except an exclamation
>mark.

Oh-oh.

>I suspect it must be something to do with reinstalling TCP IP?

Nope. If the device manager is complaining with an exclanation mark,
it's a low level driver issue, not a higher level TCP/IP stack
problem. The driver has to be recognized BEFORE the TCP/IP stack
comes into play. When looking at the explanations box under the
exclamation mark (i.e. right click and properties), does it say
"driver failed to something" or does it say "device disabled"? If
device disabled, try digging into the BIOS or play with the function
keys until the MiniPCI slot comes alive.
--
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# 831-336-2558
# http://802.11junk.com jeffl(a)cruzio.com
# http://www.LearnByDestroying.com AE6KS
From: DManzaluni on
On Apr 22, 7:47 pm, Jeff Liebermann <je...(a)cruzio.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 12:04:32 -0700 (PDT), DManzaluni
>
> <dmanzal...(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
> >This is XP updated to pre-SP3.
>
> Do your updates with a wired ethernet card.  It's both easier and less
> prone to screwups.
>
> >What worried me was that this Inspiron
> >8200 wont work with any other cards either, even a PCMCIA linksys card
> >and Netgear 511 cards which have worked before and whose software was
> >installed.  The computer cant see ANY Network card and whatever I do,
> >nothing shows up in device manager properly except an exclamation
> >mark.
>
> Oh-oh.
>
> >I suspect it must be something to do with reinstalling TCP IP?
>
> Nope.  If the device manager is complaining with an exclanation mark,
> it's a low level driver issue, not a higher level TCP/IP stack
> problem.  The driver has to be recognized BEFORE the TCP/IP stack
> comes into play.  When looking at the explanations box under the
> exclamation mark (i.e. right click and properties), does it say
> "driver failed to something" or does it say "device disabled"?  If
> device disabled, try digging into the BIOS or play with the function
> keys until the MiniPCI slot comes alive.  
> --
> # Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060
> # 831-336-2558
> #http://802.11junk.com              je...(a)cruzio.com
> #http://www.LearnByDestroying.com              AE6KS

This problem is getting easier and easier with each step I take??
Clicking on the item in device manager produces a result I have never
seen before: "Adapter State not found in registry"
Surely it can tell I am in Los Angeles by all the freeways and all the
cars whizzing around everywhere? And when I try to look at the
drivers, the recently installed ones are all there and apparently OK??

(Tried googling it and found this may be a circular problem in that I
am trying to update and it cant see the card without the update so I
will follow advice to do it through ethernet connection)
From: DManzaluni on
On Apr 28, 10:58 pm, DManzaluni <dmanzal...(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 22, 7:47 pm, Jeff Liebermann <je...(a)cruzio.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 12:04:32 -0700 (PDT), DManzaluni
>
> > <dmanzal...(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
> > >This is XP updated to pre-SP3.
>
> > Do your updates with a wired ethernet card.  It's both easier and less
> > prone to screwups.
>
> > >What worried me was that this Inspiron
> > >8200 wont work with any other cards either, even a PCMCIA linksys card
> > >and Netgear 511 cards which have worked before and whose software was
> > >installed.  The computer cant see ANY Network card and whatever I do,
> > >nothing shows up in device manager properly except an exclamation
> > >mark.
>
> > Oh-oh.
>
> > >I suspect it must be something to do with reinstalling TCP IP?
>
> > Nope.  If the device manager is complaining with an exclanation mark,
> > it's a low level driver issue, not a higher level TCP/IP stack
> > problem.  The driver has to be recognized BEFORE the TCP/IP stack
> > comes into play.  When looking at the explanations box under the
> > exclamation mark (i.e. right click and properties), does it say
> > "driver failed to something" or does it say "device disabled"?  If
> > device disabled, try digging into the BIOS or play with the function
> > keys until the MiniPCI slot comes alive.  
> > --
> > # Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060
> > # 831-336-2558
> > #http://802.11junk.com             je...(a)cruzio.com
> > #http://www.LearnByDestroying.com             AE6KS
>
> This problem is getting easier and easier with each step I take??
> Clicking on the item in device manager produces a result I have never
> seen before: "Adapter State not found in registry"
> Surely it can tell I am in Los Angeles by all the freeways and all the
> cars whizzing around everywhere?  And when I try to look at the
> drivers, the recently installed ones are all there and apparently OK??
>
> (Tried googling it and found this may be a circular problem in that I
> am trying to update and it cant see the card without the update so I
> will follow advice to do it through ethernet connection)

Correct that

The whole computer just died

Completely

Dead hard drive

Must be a coincidence.
From: Peter Pan on
"DManzaluni" <dmanzaluni(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:94ac1f9d-8ec4-4794-90d4-cda640236ece(a)o39g2000vbd.googlegroups.com...

> (Tried googling it and found this may be a circular problem in that I
> am trying to update and it cant see the card without the update so I
> will follow advice to do it through ethernet connection)

Correct that

The whole computer just died

Completely

Dead hard drive

Must be a coincidence.

well, when you install again after you replace the hard disk, make sure you
do both the actual wifi driver and then the proset software

Two part process... the driver talks to the actual hardware, and proset
talks to the driver... proset doesn't (usually) talk to the hardware itself,
just to the driver

(from a quick search online, i show 109 drivers for the dell inspiron 8200,
no clue/didn't count how many of the 109 were for wireless, could be wrong,
but i'd bet at least 1 of the 109 are for wireless oh ps, link i looked at
for the dell drivers was
http://dell.driversdown.com/dell-drivers-list/r_2_1.shtml)