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From: Rod Speed on 28 Jan 2010 18:26
DM wrote:
> On Jan 29, 7:12 am, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF " <""noujwas\"@yahoo.com is a stupid
>>
>>
>>
>> muzzie troll . wrote:
>>> Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > wrote:
>>>> My School website glitches: overload or flaw?
>>
>>>> http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/my-school-website-gl...
>>
>>>> The Government's claims that its controversial My School website
>>>> failed under a load of more than 2350 hits a second is implausible,
>>>> internet experts say.
>>
>>>> The site continued to be intermittently available today after
>>>> problems soon after its launch.
>>
>>>> Mark Newton, an engineer at internet service provider Internode,
>>>> who stressed he was not speaking on behalf of the ISP, said there
>>>> were no excuses for the Government being unable to keep the
>>>> website online this morning.
>>
>>>> The site, which lists information about every Australian school,
>>>> including national literacy and numeracy tests, went live at 1am
>>>> but crashed shortly after.
>>
>>>> Access to the website was still slow and patchy at 10.30am today
>>>> but load times were improving.
>>
>>>> A spokesman for the Australian Curriculum, Assessment and Reporting
>>>> Authority (ACARA), which developed the My School website, blamed
>>>> the problem on an "overwhelming volume of traffic".
>>
>>>> This morning, in an interview with 2UE, Deputy Prime Minister Julia
>>>> Gillard reiterated that it was high demand that crashed the site,
>>>> saying it could handle 2350 hits a second.
>>
>>>> "This website's got the capacity to take 1.7 million hits in 24
>>>> hours, that means it can take 2350 hits a second and even in the
>>>> wee hours of the morning ... there was some time that it appears
>>>> that more people than 2350 a second were trying to jump on," she
>>>> said.
>>
>>>> Ms Gillard said within hours some 1.5 million people had tried to
>>>> access the site this morning.
>>
>>>> Her office released statistics which showed the site received
>>>> 80,000 hits between midnight and 1am. This ramped up to 290,000
>>>> between 1am and 2am and 400,000 between 6am and 7am.
>>
>>>> ''We know that parents are hungry for this information," Ms Gillard
>>>> told reporters in Sydney today. ''Indeed they are so hungry for
>>>> this information that the demand this morning has caused some
>>>> problems.
>>
>>>> ''It's a website capable of handling 1.7 million visitors a day and
>>>> capable of 2350 hits a second. Demand in the early hours of of this
>>>> morning was more than that.''
>>
>>>> But Newton said it was not plausible for such a heavy load to occur
>>>> so early in the morning.
>>
>>>> "I don't think it would be plausible at that time of day and I
>>>> think generally the trough of the load curve is about five in the
>>>> morning, and if it was still out of action then, then conditions
>>>> are never going to be any better for it than that," Newton said.
>>
>>>> "In these days where you can go out and spend a few bucks with
>>>> Amazon and get an EC2 instance [Amazon's hosting service], which
>>>> will just never go down regardless of how much load you throw at
>>>> it, there's really no excuse for a website to fail under load
>>>> these days."
>>
>>>> Newton said the Government should have been able to anticipate any
>>>> load and provide enough capacity for the website on launch day.
>>
>>>> He said if the private sector was competent enough to keep websites
>>>> running smoothly, the Government should be too.
>>
>>>> Newton compared today's My School website issues to the recent
>>>> major disruptions to the Country Fire Authority website, just as
>>>> Victorians needed it the most on a high fire danger day.
>>
>>>> "Imagine the reaction if Westpac's online banking system was out
>>>> between 1am and 10am, and no one could do online banking," he said.
>>
>>>> "It seems like Governments can put up websites and they can just
>>>> fail ... I can't see why they should get a free pass with things
>>>> like this when the private sector manages to see load all the time
>>>> and have a capacity plan for it."
>>
>>>> A spokesman for ACARA said its technicians were still trying to
>>>> work out exactly why the My School website crashed.
>>
>>>> "We would like to be able to give more information than we have at
>>>> the moment but we're still trying to analyse it," she said.
>>
>>>> The hosting provider of the website, Hostworks in Australia, did
>>>> not return calls.
>>
>>> The website ishttp://www.myschool.edu.au/
>>
>> Still working well.
>>
>> The results are quite interesting too, with the govt schools
>> here doing much worse than the catholic schools.
>>
>> Corse the catholic schools have almost no boongs, there isnt any way
>> to separate the out of the results and see what difference that makes.
>
> There is a stat for percent Aboriginal for each school.

Yes, thats where I got my comment from.

But you cant for example see the stats for the school of just the non boongs
to see if its the boongs that are the problem with the lousy results.


From: SG1 on 28 Jan 2010 20:37
Dear Julia
I am surprised that anyone bothered at all with your propaganda. But the
"fact" that a whole heap of us did in the wee hours of the morn staggers me.
Can you tell how many were sober at that hour??
It gave the local "hardhat" Anna a chance to be seen without the hardhat,
just the hard head.


From: Swampfox on 28 Jan 2010 21:04
Rod Speed wrote:
> DM wrote:
>> On Jan 29, 7:12 am, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF " <""noujwas\"@yahoo.com is a stupid
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> muzzie troll . wrote:
>>>> Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > wrote:
>>>>> My School website glitches: overload or flaw?
>>>
>>>>> http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/my-school-website-gl...
>>>
>>>>> The Government's claims that its controversial My School website
>>>>> failed under a load of more than 2350 hits a second is
>>>>> implausible, internet experts say.
>>>
>>>>> The site continued to be intermittently available today after
>>>>> problems soon after its launch.
>>>
>>>>> Mark Newton, an engineer at internet service provider Internode,
>>>>> who stressed he was not speaking on behalf of the ISP, said there
>>>>> were no excuses for the Government being unable to keep the
>>>>> website online this morning.
>>>
>>>>> The site, which lists information about every Australian school,
>>>>> including national literacy and numeracy tests, went live at 1am
>>>>> but crashed shortly after.
>>>
>>>>> Access to the website was still slow and patchy at 10.30am today
>>>>> but load times were improving.
>>>
>>>>> A spokesman for the Australian Curriculum, Assessment and
>>>>> Reporting Authority (ACARA), which developed the My School
>>>>> website, blamed the problem on an "overwhelming volume of
>>>>> traffic".
>>>
>>>>> This morning, in an interview with 2UE, Deputy Prime Minister
>>>>> Julia Gillard reiterated that it was high demand that crashed the
>>>>> site, saying it could handle 2350 hits a second.
>>>
>>>>> "This website's got the capacity to take 1.7 million hits in 24
>>>>> hours, that means it can take 2350 hits a second and even in the
>>>>> wee hours of the morning ... there was some time that it appears
>>>>> that more people than 2350 a second were trying to jump on," she
>>>>> said.
>>>
>>>>> Ms Gillard said within hours some 1.5 million people had tried to
>>>>> access the site this morning.
>>>
>>>>> Her office released statistics which showed the site received
>>>>> 80,000 hits between midnight and 1am. This ramped up to 290,000
>>>>> between 1am and 2am and 400,000 between 6am and 7am.
>>>
>>>>> ''We know that parents are hungry for this information," Ms
>>>>> Gillard told reporters in Sydney today. ''Indeed they are so
>>>>> hungry for this information that the demand this morning has
>>>>> caused some problems.
>>>
>>>>> ''It's a website capable of handling 1.7 million visitors a day
>>>>> and capable of 2350 hits a second. Demand in the early hours of
>>>>> of this morning was more than that.''
>>>
>>>>> But Newton said it was not plausible for such a heavy load to
>>>>> occur so early in the morning.
>>>
>>>>> "I don't think it would be plausible at that time of day and I
>>>>> think generally the trough of the load curve is about five in the
>>>>> morning, and if it was still out of action then, then conditions
>>>>> are never going to be any better for it than that," Newton said.
>>>
>>>>> "In these days where you can go out and spend a few bucks with
>>>>> Amazon and get an EC2 instance [Amazon's hosting service], which
>>>>> will just never go down regardless of how much load you throw at
>>>>> it, there's really no excuse for a website to fail under load
>>>>> these days."
>>>
>>>>> Newton said the Government should have been able to anticipate any
>>>>> load and provide enough capacity for the website on launch day.
>>>
>>>>> He said if the private sector was competent enough to keep
>>>>> websites running smoothly, the Government should be too.
>>>
>>>>> Newton compared today's My School website issues to the recent
>>>>> major disruptions to the Country Fire Authority website, just as
>>>>> Victorians needed it the most on a high fire danger day.
>>>
>>>>> "Imagine the reaction if Westpac's online banking system was out
>>>>> between 1am and 10am, and no one could do online banking," he
>>>>> said.
>>>
>>>>> "It seems like Governments can put up websites and they can just
>>>>> fail ... I can't see why they should get a free pass with things
>>>>> like this when the private sector manages to see load all the time
>>>>> and have a capacity plan for it."
>>>
>>>>> A spokesman for ACARA said its technicians were still trying to
>>>>> work out exactly why the My School website crashed.
>>>
>>>>> "We would like to be able to give more information than we have at
>>>>> the moment but we're still trying to analyse it," she said.
>>>
>>>>> The hosting provider of the website, Hostworks in Australia, did
>>>>> not return calls.
>>>
>>>> The website ishttp://www.myschool.edu.au/
>>>
>>> Still working well.
>>>
>>> The results are quite interesting too, with the govt schools
>>> here doing much worse than the catholic schools.
>>>
>>> Corse the catholic schools have almost no boongs, there isnt any way
>>> to separate the out of the results and see what difference that
>>> makes.
>>
>> There is a stat for percent Aboriginal for each school.
>
> Yes, thats where I got my comment from.
>
> But you cant for example see the stats for the school of just the non
> boongs to see if its the boongs that are the problem with the lousy
> results.

I'm sorry they haven't tailored the web site to suit dumbarse bigots, I'll
have a word to Julia and see what she can do.


From: atom on 28 Jan 2010 21:23
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> writes:

[...]
>> http://www.myschool.edu.au/Main.aspx?PageId=0&SDRSchoolID=VICG0071506801&DEEWRID=7659&CalendarYear=2009
>> isnt any better and it isnt at all clear which one, this one or
>> yours, gets most of the new immigrant kids either.

>In fact it looks rather like from the comments that this one does get the bulk of the new immigrant kids.

In days of yore, Debney Park and Flemington were top-performing schools because of the many children
of Vietnamese migrants who lived nearby. Now the area is home to the next generation of grateful
migrants and refugees, many form the Horn of Africa.

Atom Egoyan
Melbourne, Australia

From: atom on 28 Jan 2010 21:27

>http://www.myschool.edu.au/Main.aspx?PageId=0&SDRSchoolId=VICG0071025001&DEEWRId=7660&CalendarYear=2009

Is there a way to download the entire data set? it seems to be necessary to be able to give
the system the SchoolId and the DEEWRId, even though I expect the latter should be sufficiently
unique. with a little bit of tweaking I could then map the data using Quantum GIS

Atom Egoyan
Melbourne, Australia


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