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From: Rod Speed on 28 Jan 2010 21:57
Swampfuckwit wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> Swampfuckwit wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Swampfuckwit wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF " <""noujwas\"@yahoo.com is a
>>>>>>> stupid muzzie troll . wrote:
>>>>>>>> Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > wrote
>>
>>>>>>>>> My School website glitches: overload or flaw?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/my-school-website-glitches-overload-or-flaw-20100128-n01r.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Government's claims that its controversial My School
>>>>>>>>> website failed under a load of more than 2350 hits a second is
>>>>>>>>> implausible, internet experts say.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The site continued to be intermittently available today after
>>>>>>>>> problems soon after its launch.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mark Newton, an engineer at internet service provider
>>>>>>>>> Internode, who stressed he was not speaking on behalf of the
>>>>>>>>> ISP, said there were no excuses for the Government being
>>>>>>>>> unable to keep the website online this morning.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The site, which lists information about every Australian
>>>>>>>>> school, including national literacy and numeracy tests, went
>>>>>>>>> live at 1am but crashed shortly after.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Access to the website was still slow and patchy at 10.30am
>>>>>>>>> today but load times were improving.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A spokesman for the Australian Curriculum, Assessment and
>>>>>>>>> Reporting Authority (ACARA), which developed the My School
>>>>>>>>> website, blamed the problem on an "overwhelming volume of
>>>>>>>>> traffic". This morning, in an interview with 2UE, Deputy Prime
>>>>>>>>> Minister
>>>>>>>>> Julia Gillard reiterated that it was high demand that crashed
>>>>>>>>> the site, saying it could handle 2350 hits a second.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "This website's got the capacity to take 1.7 million hits in
>>>>>>>>> 24 hours, that means it can take 2350 hits a second and even
>>>>>>>>> in the wee hours of the morning ... there was some time that
>>>>>>>>> it appears that more people than 2350 a second were trying to
>>>>>>>>> jump on," she said. Ms Gillard said within hours some 1.5
>>>>>>>>> million people had tried to access the site this morning.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Her office released statistics which showed the site received
>>>>>>>>> 80,000 hits between midnight and 1am. This ramped up to
>>>>>>>>> 290,000 between 1am and 2am and 400,000 between 6am and 7am.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ''We know that parents are hungry for this information," Ms
>>>>>>>>> Gillard told reporters in Sydney today. ''Indeed they are so
>>>>>>>>> hungry for this information that the demand this morning has
>>>>>>>>> caused some problems. ''It's a website capable of handling 1.7
>>>>>>>>> million visitors a day and capable of 2350 hits a second.
>>>>>>>>> Demand in the
>>>>>>>>> early hours of of this morning was more than that.''
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But Newton said it was not plausible for such a heavy load to
>>>>>>>>> occur so early in the morning.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "I don't think it would be plausible at that time of day and I
>>>>>>>>> think generally the trough of the load curve is about five in
>>>>>>>>> the morning, and if it was still out of action then, then
>>>>>>>>> conditions are never
>>>>>>>>> going to be any better for it than that," Newton said.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "In these days where you can go out and spend a few bucks with
>>>>>>>>> Amazon and get an EC2 instance [Amazon's hosting service],
>>>>>>>>> which will just never go down regardless of how much load you
>>>>>>>>> throw at it, there's really no excuse for a website to fail
>>>>>>>>> under load these days." Newton said the Government should have
>>>>>>>>> been able to anticipate any load and provide enough capacity
>>>>>>>>> for the website on launch day. He said if the private sector
>>>>>>>>> was competent enough to keep websites
>>>>>>>>> running smoothly, the Government should be too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Newton compared today's My School website issues to the recent
>>>>>>>>> major disruptions to the Country Fire Authority website, just
>>>>>>>>> as Victorians needed it the most on a high fire danger day.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Imagine the reaction if Westpac's online banking system was
>>>>>>>>> out between 1am and 10am, and no one could do online banking,"
>>>>>>>>> he said. "It seems like Governments can put up websites and
>>>>>>>>> they can just fail ... I can't see why they should get a free
>>>>>>>>> pass with things like this when the private sector manages to
>>>>>>>>> see load all the
>>>>>>>>> time and have a capacity plan for it."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A spokesman for ACARA said its technicians were still trying
>>>>>>>>> to work out exactly why the My School website crashed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "We would like to be able to give more information than we
>>>>>>>>> have at the moment but we're still trying to analyse it," she
>>>>>>>>> said. The hosting provider of the website, Hostworks in Australia,
>>>>>>>>> did not return calls.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The website is http://www.myschool.edu.au/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Still working well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The results are quite interesting too, with the govt schools
>>>>>>> here doing much worse than the catholic schools.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Corse the catholic schools have almost no boongs, there isnt any
>>>>>>> way to separate the out of the results and see what difference
>>>>>>> that makes.
>>>>
>>>>>> No way to see which schools are infested with recent immigrants
>>>>>> either, only boongs are listed.
>>>>
>>>>> Fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>> Your sig is sposed to be last with a line with just --- on it in
>>>> front of it, cretin.
>>>>> This school is directly adjacent to the high rise public housing
>>>>> flats in Flemington.
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.myschool.edu.au/Main.aspx?PageId=0&SDRSchoolId=VICG0071025001&DEEWRId=7660&CalendarYear=2009
>>>>
>>>>> How do you explain that Einstein?
>>>>
>>>> Nothing to explain. I was just interested in how those schools do,
>>>
>>> So now you know, and you can stop posting your usual pig ignorant
>>> drivel. Or is that too much to ask?
>>>
>>>> and there isnt any way to work out which schools they are from the
>>>> web site, as I said, cretin.
>>
>>> It's not too hard to work out if you've got a modicum of
>>> intelligence.
>>
>> Makes a hell of a lot more sense for the web site to do it, fuckwit.
>>
>>> Find out where migrant communities are concentrated, do a search for
>>> a government school in the area, you can even check the proximity if
>>> you feel the need.
>>
>> Makes a hell of a lot more sense for the web site to do it, fuckwit.
>>
>>> Anyway it seems that at least one school heavily infested with
>>> recent immigrants does OK for itself,
>>
>> It does indeed.
>>
>> http://www.myschool.edu.au/Main.aspx?PageId=0&SDRSchoolID=VICG0071776301&DEEWRID=6262&CalendarYear=2009
>> is pretty dismal tho.

> That same school was third in Victoria for VCE scores not long ago
> and has an outstanding record.

Pity about their record on basic literacy and numeracy
and the crime levels of their 'students'

> From the 2007 Australia Day speech by Glyn Davis, Vice Cancellor of Melbourne University:

> "This small and unassuming College sits near Flemington in the
> Melbourne suburbs, under the leadership of Brett New for many years,
> and now with Michael O'Brien as the inspiring school principal. Over
> the gate is the school motto - 'Towards Equity and Excellence -Every Child Matters'.

It clearly doesnt with basic literacy and numeracy.

> The Debney Park catchment area includes large communities of Somali
> and Sudanese refugees. Many are very recent arrivals. Margaret
> Simons (2006) reports that 'in their home country most had been
> semi-nomadic peasants'. There are some 43 different nationalities
> among the school's 340 students. 'Some arrived without ever having
> held a pen or handled a book'. More than half live in public
> housing, and some children arrive at the school suffering
> post-traumatic shock. 'And yet', notes Simons, 'almost beyond belief'
> the school consistently sees about a quarter of its VCE students
> achieving ENTER scores above 80. In the most recent VCE round, more
> than 10 percent of Debney Park Secondary College students earned
> ENTER scores over 90.

Pity about basic literacy and numeracy.

> A 2005 Victorian Department of Education On Track survey of Debney
> Park graduates a year after completing school found that 96 percent
> had gone onto tertiary education or training. The remainder were in
> employment or apprenticeships. None was unemployed."

Not a single one, eh ? Dont believe it.


From: Rod Speed on 28 Jan 2010 22:02
atom wrote:

>> http://www.myschool.edu.au/Main.aspx?PageId=0&SDRSchoolId=VICG0071025001&DEEWRId=7660&CalendarYear=2009

> Is there a way to download the entire data set?

Nope, they have deliberately not allowed that so the media cant do league tables.

Not clear how hard it would be to automate that, whether the site
checks if you are getting the data of most of the state's schools etc
and stops serving the data if you do. Wouldnt be that hard to test that.

> it seems to be necessary to be able to give the system the SchoolId and the DEEWRId,

Yes, but it wouldnt be that hard to get those off the site.

> even though I expect the latter should be sufficiently unique. with a
> little bit of tweaking I could then map the data using Quantum GIS

Shouldnt be that hard using the local schools page.


From: Swampfox on 28 Jan 2010 22:11
Rod Speed wrote:

<Speed's lame insults snipped>

>> That same school was third in Victoria for VCE scores not long ago
>> and has an outstanding record.
>
> Pity about their record on basic literacy and numeracy
> and the crime levels of their 'students'
>
>> From the 2007 Australia Day speech by Glyn Davis, Vice Cancellor of
>> Melbourne University:
>
>> "This small and unassuming College sits near Flemington in the
>> Melbourne suburbs, under the leadership of Brett New for many years,
>> and now with Michael O'Brien as the inspiring school principal. Over
>> the gate is the school motto - 'Towards Equity and Excellence -Every
>> Child Matters'.
>
> It clearly doesnt with basic literacy and numeracy.
>
>> The Debney Park catchment area includes large communities of Somali
>> and Sudanese refugees. Many are very recent arrivals. Margaret
>> Simons (2006) reports that 'in their home country most had been
>> semi-nomadic peasants'. There are some 43 different nationalities
>> among the school's 340 students. 'Some arrived without ever having
>> held a pen or handled a book'. More than half live in public
>> housing, and some children arrive at the school suffering
>> post-traumatic shock. 'And yet', notes Simons, 'almost beyond belief'
>> the school consistently sees about a quarter of its VCE students
>> achieving ENTER scores above 80. In the most recent VCE round, more
>> than 10 percent of Debney Park Secondary College students earned
>> ENTER scores over 90.
>
> Pity about basic literacy and numeracy.

A lack of basic literacy and numeracy skills hasn't stopped you from posting
tripe on usenet for years.

>
>> A 2005 Victorian Department of Education On Track survey of Debney
>> Park graduates a year after completing school found that 96 percent
>> had gone onto tertiary education or training. The remainder were in
>> employment or apprenticeships. None was unemployed."
>
> Not a single one, eh ? Dont believe it.

Because as a pig ignorant bigot you don't want to believe it, suck it up pea
brain.


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