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From: Benj on 6 May 2010 00:22
On May 5, 11:16 pm, Marvin the Martian <mar...(a)ontomars.org> wrote:
> AGWer: You're all gonna Die!!
>
> John Q Public: Um, yeah.
>
> AGWer (frustrated): It's TWICE as bad as what I said it was before!!!
> You're gonna die TWICE!!

You can laugh Marvin, but you won't be laughing once you discover that
only a trillion dollar "cap and trade" exchange can save our sorry
asses!

Personally I'd rather see the trillion dollars used to scrape the oil
off the Gulf of Mexico. We can put it to good use!

From: First Post on 6 May 2010 00:53
On Wed, 5 May 2010 21:22:56 -0700 (PDT), Benj <bjacoby(a)iwaynet.net>
wrote:

>On May 5, 11:16�pm, Marvin the Martian <mar...(a)ontomars.org> wrote:
>> AGWer: You're all gonna Die!!
>>
>> John Q Public: Um, yeah.
>>
>> AGWer (frustrated): It's TWICE as bad as what I said it was before!!!
>> You're gonna die TWICE!!
>
>You can laugh Marvin, but you won't be laughing once you discover that
>only a trillion dollar "cap and trade" exchange can save our sorry
>asses!
>
>Personally I'd rather see the trillion dollars used to scrape the oil
>off the Gulf of Mexico. We can put it to good use!

If global warming is ever going to kill humanity off it will be after
you are long dead and gone and not caring at all about whomever is
left.
Why so many who say there is nothing but the life you live and no
chance of any kind of afterlife act like they really care whether
humanity survives after they are dead and gone is quite curious.
It will not matter to them at that point one way or the other.
That is reality.
After any of us are dead and buried we will cease to care one bit
about what happens to the race afterwards.
We will not be affected by what our descendants do good or bad.
So unless you know how to live for several hundred years, which in
itself would be detrimental to the survival of the race, the honest
truth is it won't matter. Whether your great great grandchildren die
from old age, global warming or during complications at birth, It
won't matter to you. It will not matter what kind of memory you think
you will leave others after your death. it won't matter to you one
bit because nothing matters to the dead.

Funny how even the alleged most intelligent individuals on earth have
great difficulty swallowing that. Even though it is the cold hard
facts of life and death.

From: Androcles on 6 May 2010 01:07

"Bret Cahill" <BretCahill(a)peoplepc.com> wrote in message
news:37c7fc8a-ea1f-45c7-ab9c-d1a9b701ff04(a)i10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
Everyone is a denier more or less.

=====================================
I deny I'm a denier.





From: Siobhan Medeiros on 6 May 2010 01:32
On May 5, 12:53 pm, "Eddie Haskell" <io...(a)ddvtt.com> wrote:
> "Transition Zone" <mogu...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:e10574ad-ef65-455f-a6b3-896cf9b115e7(a)i10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > The Purple Panther   wrote:
>
> > Global warming poses twice as great a threat to the planet as has so
> > far been
> > believed, the world's leading scientists have concluded.
>
> Yeah, we're all gonna die. You might as well get it over with now.
>
> -Eddie Haskell

I'll buy you the gun!
From: spudnik on 6 May 2010 01:58
"95%" is just an arbitrary thing; like,
they went to 10% for kids & secondhand smoke
-- phew!

thus:
natural gas pipelines were long-ago coated
internally with plastic, to prevent hydrogen embrittlement. now,
ask yourself,
why haven't the oil companies ever carbon-
dated Fossilized Fuels (TM) ??

answer: they have,
to get "fingerprints" of adjacent wells,
to see how connected they are; so,
where's the datum?

> What would it cost to rebuild the electricity grid or the network of
> pipes that carries water? Include the rights of way.

thus:
yeah, that's the spirit. the problem is,
in developing a model of n-dimensional figurate numbers,
that could be used to make the F"L"T contradiction.
(Conway and Guy had a nice, elementary "Book
of Numbers" -- as I recall -- with lots of pictures
for 3D figurates; I even made some "new results"
using it .-)

thus:
the actual problem was in 1895,
when Svente Ahrrhenius didn't bother
to model an actual glass house
at a particular lattitude ... and
neither did anyone who had a computer
in the climate lab.

on the other hand,
he probably didn't get the first Nobel
for *that*, any way.

thus:
you mean, F"L"T is easy for the Sophie Germaine primes?

thus:
in contrast to Magadin's assertion,
below, the reality is that n=4 is the only case
that is truly special, which Fermat apparently
didn't notice, when he wrote the marginal note.
(may be, that's what blew him off,
when I noted it in another item .-)

Fermat apparently did not have to prove n=3, 5 etc.,
nor any other composite power (the "easy lemma"
in all elementary treatments of numbertheory
with F"L"T .-)

thus:
.... but, he did see one key (old) result,
that Fermat's "last" theorem is the same,
when applied to rational numbers,
as pairs of coordinates on the unit circle (or
the associated Fermat curves,
for powers greater than two. well,
it's quite trivial, as they say,
but it is a good way to attempt the problem,
a la Ribet, Frey etc. through
to Wiles' Secret Attic Project.

there's a really good expository book
on the stuff around Wiles "proof,"
_Fearless Symmetry_.

thus:
since Fermat made no mistakes, at all,
including in withdrawing his assertion
about the Fermat primes (letter to Frenicle), all
-- as I've posted in this item, plenty --
of the evidence suggests that the "miracle" was just
a key to his ne'er-revealed method, and
one of his very first proofs. (and,
I wonder, if Gauss was attracted to the problem
of constructbility, after reading of the primes.)

--Light: A History!
http://wlym.TAKEtheGOOGOLout.com
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