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From: Tony Hwang on 27 Apr 2010 11:02
Joel wrote:
> Tony Hwang<dragon40(a)shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> Joel wrote:
>>> If you don't mind me asking another dumb question. As a slower learner I
>>> often or always try to gather as much information as I possible can, and
>>> taking my time installing new toy. As you may have reas that it took me
>>> many years to upgrade the router just to be able to solve the
>>> multi-connections issue I had for so many years.
>>>
>>> Now, I got the Cisco E3000, installed it after lot of reading and sweating
>>> (about the experts having some problem with some thing). I have read the
>>>
>>> - Basic setting
>>>
>>> - Advanced Setting
>>>
>>> - Web setting
>>>
>>> - Cisco Connecting etc..
>>>
>>> And after I got the router working, I still don't know if I used the
>>> Basic, Advanced, Web, or Cisco setting. All I know that I inserted the
>>> CD/DVD and following the step-by-step instruction how to hook up the cable,
>>> then NEXT and waited for the router doiung some checking or setting
>>> whatever. That's it.
>>>
>>> Then I clicked on something and it sent the "192.168.1.0" (or 192.168.0.1
>>> whatever) to browser and it was in Web Setting, or Advanced Setting, or
>>> Cisco setting.. I still dunno know.
>>>
>>> I read and quite afew people mention about some setting in web setting may
>>> disable the Cisco Connecting, and I believe I saw the warning from the
>>> setting (I don't think I selected that option?). Now I try to check the
>>> Cisco Connection and dunno where to find it.... I tried to run the SETUP
>>> from CD/DVD and it said the router already setup.
>>>
>>> And I read *if* something discable the Cisco Connection then I may have to
>>> RESET the router etc.. and I have no idea where I am at.
>>>
>>> Also, how do I check to see which BAND I am using (2.4M/hz or 5M/hz), and
>>> any advantage or disadvantage between those 2 modes? I feel like I wasn't
>>> born for advanced tech.
>> Hi,
>> Let's compae it to car drivers. There are automotive vehicle operator
>> and driver. Do you know the difference? I am using older WRT610N using
>> both bands. I read one comparison testing between E3000 and WRT600N.
>> The difference was barely 10%. I have a E3000 on the way for my own
>> evaluation.
>
> Well, this isn't the answer I looking for, I don't expect much difference
> between the similar products, or different brands with similar technology. I
> am looking for the answer for my confusion cuz of lacking of experience.
>
> I did run into some speed test between NetGear vs Linksys/Cisco, but I
> don't care much for the speed at the moment, and that's why I have mentioned
> about looking to retire my old Motorola SB5120 with newer SB6120 see if I
> can squeeze some juice out of the COX speed. Although, I am quite happy
> with the current speed (not the fastest but I don't really need any faster)
> that I been testing several times a day in the past few days (be prepared
> for next upgrade) and the speed can go somewhere around 9Mb/s -> 25Mb/s
> (download) and pretty stable at around 2Mb/s -> 2.5Mb/s. Once speedtest
> reported the download speed reached around 35Mb/s but only once.
>
> OK, since you are Linksys ownerm would you give me some info about the
> difference between those settings, or based on the conversations I read
> sometime I feel like I was in the BASIC setting, sometime at the Advanced
> Setting, sometime at the Web setting mode, and sometime at the Cisco
> Connecting setting mode. Or I am happy to get it running, but just want to
> know where I am at or where I were ... so confusing.
>
> Cuz all the routers I had before don't have this type of information or I
> just use the web setting. And I read that Web Setting and Cisco Setting are
> two different beasts they not only don't like each other but even against
> each other. I read that it uses 2 different programs to setup different
> parts of the router, and one setup could disable other which may require
> factory reset to bring back the option to screw up again hehehe.
>
Hi,
I really don't fathom what you are trying to do.
If you have a specific question, maybe forum at Cisco site
is the place to go. I am just wondering if E3000 is Linux
driven so it is a dd-wrt candidate.
From: Peter Pan on 29 Apr 2010 15:18
"Joel" <Joel(a)NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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> Also, how do I check to see which BAND I am using (2.4M/hz or 5M/hz), and
> any advantage or disadvantage between those 2 modes? I feel like I wasn't
> born for advanced tech.



at this point, don't worry about it, most devices your grandkids probably
have are 2.4

From: Peter Pan on 29 Apr 2010 15:51
"Joel" <Joel(a)NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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>
> I did run into some speed test between NetGear vs Linksys/Cisco, but I
> don't care much for the speed at the moment, and that's why I have
> mentioned
> about looking to retire my old Motorola SB5120 with newer SB6120 see if I
> can squeeze some juice out of the COX speed. Although, I am quite happy
> with the current speed (not the fastest but I don't really need any
> faster)
> that I been testing several times a day in the past few days (be prepared
> for next upgrade) and the speed can go somewhere around 9Mb/s -> 25Mb/s
> (download) and pretty stable at around 2Mb/s - > 2.5Mb/s. Once speedtest
> reported the download speed reached around 35Mb/s but only once.
>

ummm, you may want to consider some basics about speed, all you may get is a
bill, bragging rights for a bigger number, and absolutely no speed
increase.....
you will absolutely ALWAYS be limited to the slowest thing (ie cox is about
12-25 mbps, and they sometimes burst faster so people think they are faster
than they really are ((no matter which modem)), your wireless is 54, wired
100, gigabit ethernet 1000... if you are acessing the internet you will
NEVER get higher speed than what cox provides, so if the max from cox was
35, you will never get faster than 35)

as an analogy, summers coming, think of a swimming pool in your yard and you
have a 3/4 " water faucet on your wall and a garden hose, and a 2" fire
hose..... what fills the pool faster? (if you say 2" hose, then is it on a
fire hydrant, or connected to the 3/4" faucet on your wall... if connected
to the outside 3/4" faucet will the 2" or and 3/4" be faster or same
speed/limited to the slowest device)

From: Peter Pan on 29 Apr 2010 15:56
"Joel" <Joel(a)NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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> Tony Hwang <dragon40(a)shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> Joel wrote:
>> > Tony Hwang<dragon40(a)shaw.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Joel wrote:
>> >>> If you don't mind me asking another dumb question. As a slower
>> >>> learner I
>> >>> often or always try to gather as much information as I possible can,
>> >>> and
>> >>> taking my time installing new toy. As you may have reas that it took
>> >>> me
>> >>> many years to upgrade the router just to be able to solve the
>> >>> multi-connections issue I had for so many years.
>> >>>
>> >>> Now, I got the Cisco E3000, installed it after lot of reading and
>> >>> sweating
>> >>> (about the experts having some problem with some thing). I have read
>> >>> the
>> >>>
>> >>> - Basic setting
>> >>>
>> >>> - Advanced Setting
>> >>>
>> >>> - Web setting
>> >>>
>> >>> - Cisco Connecting etc..
>> >>>
>> >>> And after I got the router working, I still don't know if I used the
>> >>> Basic, Advanced, Web, or Cisco setting. All I know that I inserted
>> >>> the
>> >>> CD/DVD and following the step-by-step instruction how to hook up the
>> >>> cable,
>> >>> then NEXT and waited for the router doiung some checking or setting
>> >>> whatever. That's it.
>> >>>
>> >>> Then I clicked on something and it sent the "192.168.1.0" (or
>> >>> 192.168.0.1
>> >>> whatever) to browser and it was in Web Setting, or Advanced Setting,
>> >>> or
>> >>> Cisco setting.. I still dunno know.
>> >>>
>> >>> I read and quite afew people mention about some setting in web
>> >>> setting may
>> >>> disable the Cisco Connecting, and I believe I saw the warning from
>> >>> the
>> >>> setting (I don't think I selected that option?). Now I try to check
>> >>> the
>> >>> Cisco Connection and dunno where to find it.... I tried to run the
>> >>> SETUP
>> >>> from CD/DVD and it said the router already setup.
>> >>>
>> >>> And I read *if* something discable the Cisco Connection then I may
>> >>> have to
>> >>> RESET the router etc.. and I have no idea where I am at.
>> >>>
>> >>> Also, how do I check to see which BAND I am using (2.4M/hz or 5M/hz),
>> >>> and
>> >>> any advantage or disadvantage between those 2 modes? I feel like I
>> >>> wasn't
>> >>> born for advanced tech.
>> >> Hi,
>> >> Let's compae it to car drivers. There are automotive vehicle operator
>> >> and driver. Do you know the difference? I am using older WRT610N using
>> >> both bands. I read one comparison testing between E3000 and WRT600N.
>> >> The difference was barely 10%. I have a E3000 on the way for my own
>> >> evaluation.
>> >
>> > Well, this isn't the answer I looking for, I don't expect much
>> > difference
>> > between the similar products, or different brands with similar
>> > technology. I
>> > am looking for the answer for my confusion cuz of lacking of
>> > experience.
>> >
>> > I did run into some speed test between NetGear vs Linksys/Cisco, but I
>> > don't care much for the speed at the moment, and that's why I have
>> > mentioned
>> > about looking to retire my old Motorola SB5120 with newer SB6120 see if
>> > I
>> > can squeeze some juice out of the COX speed. Although, I am quite
>> > happy
>> > with the current speed (not the fastest but I don't really need any
>> > faster)
>> > that I been testing several times a day in the past few days (be
>> > prepared
>> > for next upgrade) and the speed can go somewhere around 9Mb/s ->
>> > 25Mb/s
>> > (download) and pretty stable at around 2Mb/s -> 2.5Mb/s. Once
>> > speedtest
>> > reported the download speed reached around 35Mb/s but only once.
>> >
>> > OK, since you are Linksys ownerm would you give me some info about the
>> > difference between those settings, or based on the conversations I read
>> > sometime I feel like I was in the BASIC setting, sometime at the
>> > Advanced
>> > Setting, sometime at the Web setting mode, and sometime at the Cisco
>> > Connecting setting mode. Or I am happy to get it running, but just
>> > want to
>> > know where I am at or where I were ... so confusing.
>> >
>> > Cuz all the routers I had before don't have this type of information or
>> > I
>> > just use the web setting. And I read that Web Setting and Cisco
>> > Setting are
>> > two different beasts they not only don't like each other but even
>> > against
>> > each other. I read that it uses 2 different programs to setup
>> > different
>> > parts of the router, and one setup could disable other which may
>> > require
>> > factory reset to bring back the option to screw up again hehehe.
>> >
>> Hi,
>> I really don't fathom what you are trying to do.
>> If you have a specific question, maybe forum at Cisco site
>> is the place to go. I am just wondering if E3000 is Linux
>> driven so it is a dd-wrt candidate.
>
> Well, if I can get good information from Cisco site then I wouldn't have
> to pay $$$ and spending time reading and asking question here. Here, I
> spend hours in the past few days reading many conversations of many web
> forums, even downloaded a large DPF manual with settting instruction,
> reading the online help etc. but
>
> - The online help (when setting) covers most options but not all
>
> - The PDF has much more information than I really need, but they don't
> cover
> everything either. And the sad part that the PICTURES are so blur that I
> can't be able to see, or if they try to use PHOTO then they should make
> sure
> that the photo is readable.
>
> - I stopped by Cisco site few times and can't even be able to find the
> manual, I end up Google for the link. IOW, the manual comes from Cisco
> site
> but the web isn't designed for manual seeker, or asking question etc..
>
> I don't know about the E3000 but I read one of the E2000 (E2000L ?) has
> Linux supported. And I am not Linux user to know much about it, and I
> found
> the info from the ads not Cisco site.



who cares, and why does it matter? for your posted uses you absolutely
positively don't need dd-wrt, so why ask about it?

From: Peter Pan on 29 Apr 2010 16:11
"Joel" <Joel(a)NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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> Char Jackson <none(a)none.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 04:34:14 -0500, Joel <Joel(a)NoSpam.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I did run into some speed test between NetGear vs Linksys/Cisco, but I
>> >don't care much for the speed at the moment, and that's why I have
>> >mentioned
>> >about looking to retire my old Motorola SB5120 with newer SB6120 see if
>> >I
>> >can squeeze some juice out of the COX speed. Although, I am quite happy
>> >with the current speed (not the fastest but I don't really need any
>> >faster)
>> >that I been testing several times a day in the past few days (be
>> >prepared
>> >for next upgrade) and the speed can go somewhere around 9Mb/s -> 25Mb/s
>> >(download) and pretty stable at around 2Mb/s - > 2.5Mb/s. Once
>> >speedtest
>> >reported the download speed reached around 35Mb/s but only once.
>>
>> A new modem isn't going to provide faster throughput unless your
>> existing modem is broken.
>
> In general I agree with you on this one, but in some case a newer
> technology may do something that older technology can't.
>
> I just ordered the SB6120 and will report the result here in couple days.
>
>> You pay for a certain service level. We don't know what that level is,
>> but you should. Are you getting what you're paying for? If so, the
>> best way to get more speed is to buy a higher service level. In the
>> unlikely event that you buy a service level that your existing modem
>> isn't capable of, only then does it make sense to buy a new (faster)
>> modem. If you lease your modem, your cable company will take care of
>> this automatically.
>
> In general, again I agree with you. But in some case(s)
>
> - We may underpower of what we pay for.
>
> - With the right tool we may be able to pull few extra juice that the
> older
> tech can't.
>
> As I said, I am ok with the current speed even the speed could reduce to
> 8-10Mb/s in the evening when students off school, and pumps up to 25+Mb/s
> when they are asleep. But to me $83 is a small price for the
> lesson/answer
> so I won't mind abit, and I can assume that the current SB5120 is broken
> (or
> it has served me well enough).
>
> I don't expect it's going to be much or any faster, but I guess that it
> probably handle the heavy load better (as it's kinda like multiple modems
> joined together).



nope...

however, you can cheat... most cable companies have voip... if you have both
internet AND voip, voip (digital voice) has priority over anything else on
the cable (like tv or internet), i plug my wap/router into the voip voice
modem instead of the internet modem and it runs at a higher priority

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