From: nospam on
In article <gl4317-3103102139120001(a)69-30-9-104.pxd.easystreet.com>,
<gl4317(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > Photoshop saves the files in its own native format, with all the layers
> > > and other stuff built right into the file. You then export to GIF, JPEG,
> > > etc., or keep it as a GIF, JPEG, etc. without saving the native format.
> > > GraphicConverter has no such native format. You edit the pixels you have.
> >
> > both are editing the pixels you have,
>
> No. In its native file format, Photoshop can save such things as vectors
> and text for editing afterward.

ok, i was just thinking images such as a jpeg or gif.

> GraphicConverter converts text to pixels
> when it is finalized, not allowing one to edit the text afterward. There
> aren't layers. (At least, not in the version I have.)

that's worse.
From: nospam on
In article <gl4317-3103102148150001(a)69-30-9-104.pxd.easystreet.com>,
<gl4317(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> One of the things that I really miss about GraphicConverter when I use
> photoshop is the cropping tool. Photoshop has probably changed since the
> old version I have where I work was put out, but GraphicConverter has a
> nice little display in the upper right corner that gives the size of the
> resulting cropped image.

it's in the info palette, and it's probably in the version you have.

> If you need, say, a 560 x 500 for a web page,
> you can select one corner of what you want and as you move the rectangle
> it gives you a reading of the resulting image size as you move the other
> end of the rectangle. You can then move the other corner of the rectangle
> to the exact location to fit the size you want. You then select "Trim
> Selection" from the menu.

you can set a fixed size crop and just click, then position the
rectangle wherever you want.

> In Photoshop, you choose the crop tool and just roughly guess at the image
> size as you crop it. You then have to choose Image Size from the menu to
> see what the actual resulting image size is after the crop.

see above.
From: John McWilliams on
John wrote:
>
> Being able to edit and retouch photos. How much is Elements?

Really? You are aware you're 'talking' in public, aren't you? Besides,
it's already been mentioned in threads you've participated in.

--
lsmft
From: dorayme on
In article
<gl4317-3103102148150001(a)69-30-9-104.pxd.easystreet.com>,
gl4317(a)yahoo.com (gl4317(a)yahoo.com) wrote:

> In article <jwolf6589-59FA0C.21564431032010(a)nntp.charter.net>, John
> <jwolf6589(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I am wondering if the current GC will do the job for me. Just need a app
> > that can crop, retouch, filter, change, and mess with photos.
>
>
> One of the things that I really miss about GraphicConverter when I use
> photoshop is the cropping tool. Photoshop has probably changed since the
> old version I have where I work was put out, but GraphicConverter has a
> nice little display in the upper right corner that gives the size of the
> resulting cropped image. If you need, say, a 560 x 500 for a web page,
> you can select one corner of what you want and as you move the rectangle
> it gives you a reading of the resulting image size as you move the other
> end of the rectangle. You can then move the other corner of the rectangle
> to the exact location to fit the size you want. You then select "Trim
> Selection" from the menu.
>
> In Photoshop, you choose the crop tool and just roughly guess at the image
> size as you crop it. You then have to choose Image Size from the menu to
> see what the actual resulting image size is after the crop.

No, even in Photoshop 5 (and probably earlier) you get the
perfect thing you want:

1. Go to Windows menu at top of screen. Choose Show Options.

2. Select the crop tool.

3. Tick the Fixed target box and then type in the dimensions you
want - be sure to specify pixels)

4. Crop and (barring complications about resolution) Bob should
be your uncle.

I still have PS5 and it works brilliantly in Classic, *most* (but
not all) of the things I ever do I could happily do in 5 or 6. 6
began to have reasonable text support (before 6 it was all a bit
ridiculous and clunky).

--
dorayme
From: Warren Oates on
In article <jwolf6589-59FA0C.21564431032010(a)nntp.charter.net>,
John <jwolf6589(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> I am wondering if the current GC will do the job for me. Just need a app
> that can crop, retouch, filter, change, and mess with photos.

GC will do that. I keep GC around, not because it's an "alternative to
Photoshop" but because it's always been Lemke's claim-to-fame that his
app will convert any format to any other, and that he'll add any format
you find that he hasn't. He's one of the heroes of Mac software, like
Norstad, like Peter Lewis was, and like Simon Fraser still is.
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