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> Sydney wrote:
>> "Paul" <nospam(a)needed.com> a �crit dans le message de groupe de
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>>> Sydney wrote:
>>>> After approximatly 45 minutes of operation, the screen get scrambled. I
>>>> suspect a problem of heating since none of the 2 fans operate when I
>>>> switch on the notebook.
>>>> anybody for an idea ?
>>>> Is there a specific newsgroup for Dell ?
>>>
>>> If you know the fans are malfunctioning, why continue to run the machine
>>> ?
>>> Operating the machine at a high temperature, will shorten its life. And
>>> if you're not careful, could lead to a battery malfunction.
>>>
>>> You can try Speedfan if you want, and see if that can adjust the fan
>>> speed.
>>> If the fans still do not spin, clean them out.
>>>
>>> http://www.almico.com/speedfan440.exe
>>>
>>> It is also possible, for the power source feeding the fans, to be
>>> broken.
>>> Some people with retail motherboards in desktop computers, manage to
>>> burn
>>> out the +12V copper track, feeding the fan headers. But that happens,
>>> because
>>> it is too easy on a desktop computer, to play with the fan header
>>> connector
>>> while the computer is powered (and one mistake can result in damage).
>>>
>>> Paul
>> This notebook was given to me to see what was the problem.
>> i have described what I saw.
>> My question was rather : Do you know enough the Dell Inspiron to acertain
>> that the fans should run as soon as they are in operation or should they
>> run at a certain temperature.
>> I am conscious of the effect of heat on components.
>
> The fans should be temperature controlled. The reason for that, is
> the laptop manages power consumption, and a fan draws power from
> the battery. When the laptop is turned on, it is still cold, so
> can run for a few minutes, before the fan comes on. The fan is only
> used, to keep temperatures to relatively high limits.
>
> If a laptop has a powerful graphics subsystem, it might have one fan
> for the CPU and one for the GPU. Or, it could have one blower, tied
> to both chips, using heatpipes.
>
> The CPU and the GPU could have thermal diodes, which are devices on
> the silicon die, to monitor temperature. Depending on the design,
> the CPU fan speed may be automatically monitored. (Some SuperI/O
> chips can be programmed to automatically operate the fan, as
> a function of the measured temperature.) I'm not sure what
> they use for the GPU, but it could take advantage of the same
> concept. Some Intel chipsets, also have built-in fan control
> (QST?).
>
> In any case, I suggest installing SpeedFan and verifying the fans
> still work. The program can set the fan speed manually. The program
> can also read out temperatures. At least, as long as the chip
> detection routines work properly when the program starts.
>
I think the fans re temperature controlled. Dell does not give details about
the sensors the machine may have ( nor any repair manual)
I will test with speedfan and possibly with a voltage controller at the fan
terminal.