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From: BURT on 12 Jul 2010 21:17 On Jul 11, 9:44 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jul 11, 11:31 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 11, 9:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 11, 10:59 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 11, 10:31 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 11, 1:18 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 5, 6:08 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear mpc755: Gravity is: "Mass proportional forces caused by flowing > > > > > > ether (energy) that is replenished by the 'hobo' ether carried back > > > > > > into space by the photons that are constantly being exchanged between > > > > > > the attracted bodies." NoEinstein > > > > > > Space does not flow into the Earth. > > > > > Yes it does but it is a round geometry of point that flows inward to > > > > center with a still aether counterpart. There are two sides to space > > > > and two sides to time. Such is time for GR and SR. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > Space does not flow into the Earth. > > > > Matter displaces dark matter. > > > Dark matter is not at rest when displaced and 'displaces back'. > > > The 'displacing back' is pressure exerted by displaced dark matter. > > > Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity. > > > > You mistake the pressure exerted by displaced dark matter for a flow. > > > > Gravitation, the 'Dark Matter' Effect and the Fine Structure Constanthttp://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0401047 > > > > "There we see the first arguments that indicate the logical necessity > > > for quantum behaviour, at both the spatial level and at the matter > > > level. There space is, at one of the lowest levels, a quantumfoam > > > system undergoing ongoing classicalisation. That model suggest that > > > gravity is caused by matter changing the processing rate of the > > > informational system that manifests as space, and as a consequence > > > space effectively flows towards matter. However this is not a flow > > > of some form of matter through space, as previously considered in > > > the aether models or in the random particulate Le Sage kinetic > > > theory of gravity, rather the flow is an ongoing rearrangement of the > > > quantum-foam patterns that form space, and indeed only have a > > > geometrical description at a coarse-grained level. Then the flow in > > > one region is relative only to the patterns in nearby regions, and not > > > relative to some a priori background geometrical space" > > > > What is described as "space effectively flows towards matter" is the > > > pressure exerted by the displaced dark matter towards the matter. > > > > "Then the flow in one region is relative only to the patterns in > > > nearby regions" is the pressure exerted by the displaced dark matter > > > towards the matter and the pressure exerted by the displaced dark > > > matter in nearby regions towards the matter. > > > > Evidence of dark matter displacement: > > > > 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter' > > > hhttp://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur... > > > > "The simulations show that when the two clusters smash together, the > > > dark matter falls to the center of the combined cluster and sloshes > > > back out." > > > > "Astronomers using NASAs Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view > > > of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two > > > galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is > > > somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the > > > water." > > > > A rock creates a ripple by displacing the water in a pond. > > > > The two galaxy cluster collision is analogous to a collision between > > > two boats. The two boat collision creates a ripple in the water. The > > > ripple occurs because the boats displace water. > > > > The ripple occurs because the galaxy clusters displace dark matter.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > It is possible to flow instantansously in each geometric point. Flow > > may go nowhere itself but it flows energy through its space-time. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > There is nothing that flows. Instead we are simply a part to the > whole and operate at speeds and delays which have nothing to do with > c. This c speed has been mixed up with "seeing" speed- but they are > certainly not the same thing.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Absolutely everything is flowing in some way. Such is time. Mitch Raemsch
From: YBM on 12 Jul 2010 21:21 BURT a �crit : > On Jul 11, 9:44 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> On Jul 11, 11:31 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jul 11, 9:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On Jul 11, 10:59 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> On Jul 11, 10:31 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Jul 11, 1:18 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 5, 6:08 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Dear mpc755: Gravity is: "Mass proportional forces caused by flowing >>>>>>> ether (energy) that is replenished by the 'hobo' ether carried back >>>>>>> into space by the photons that are constantly being exchanged between >>>>>>> the attracted bodies." � NoEinstein � >>>>>> Space does not flow into the Earth. >>>>> Yes it does but it is a round geometry of point that flows inward to >>>>> center with a still aether counterpart. There are two sides to space >>>>> and two sides to time. Such is time for GR and SR. >>>>> Mitch Raemsch >>>> Space does not flow into the Earth. >>>> Matter displaces dark matter. >>>> Dark matter is not at rest when displaced and 'displaces back'. >>>> The 'displacing back' is pressure exerted by displaced dark matter. >>>> Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity. >>>> You mistake the pressure exerted by displaced dark matter for a flow. >>>> Gravitation, the 'Dark Matter' Effect and the Fine Structure Constanthttp://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0401047 >>>> "There we see the first arguments that indicate the logical necessity >>>> for quantum behaviour, at both the spatial level and at the matter >>>> level. There space is, at one of the lowest levels, a quantumfoam >>>> system undergoing ongoing classicalisation. That model suggest that >>>> gravity is caused by matter changing the processing rate of the >>>> informational system that manifests as space, and as a consequence >>>> space effectively �flows� towards matter. However this is not a �flow� >>>> of some form of �matter� through space, as previously considered in >>>> the aether models or in the �random� particulate Le Sage kinetic >>>> theory of gravity, rather the flow is an ongoing rearrangement of the >>>> quantum-foam patterns that form space, and indeed only have a >>>> geometrical description at a coarse-grained level. Then the �flow� in >>>> one region is relative only to the patterns in nearby regions, and not >>>> relative to some a priori background geometrical space" >>>> What is described as "space effectively �flows� towards matter" is the >>>> pressure exerted by the displaced dark matter towards the matter. >>>> "Then the �flow� in one region is relative only to the patterns in >>>> nearby regions" is the pressure exerted by the displaced dark matter >>>> towards the matter and the pressure exerted by the displaced dark >>>> matter in nearby regions towards the matter. >>>> Evidence of dark matter displacement: >>>> 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter' >>>> hhttp://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur... >>>> "The simulations show that when the two clusters smash together, the >>>> dark matter falls to the center of the combined cluster and sloshes >>>> back out." >>>> "Astronomers using NASA�s Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view >>>> of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two >>>> galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is >>>> somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the >>>> water." >>>> A rock creates a ripple by displacing the water in a pond. >>>> The two galaxy cluster collision is analogous to a collision between >>>> two boats. The two boat collision creates a ripple in the water. The >>>> ripple occurs because the boats displace water. >>>> The ripple occurs because the galaxy clusters displace dark matter.- Hide quoted text - >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> It is possible to flow instantansously in each geometric point. Flow >>> may go nowhere itself but it flows energy through its space-time. >>> Mitch Raemsch >> There is nothing that flows. Instead we are simply a part to the >> whole and operate at speeds and delays which have nothing to do with >> c. This c speed has been mixed up with "seeing" speed- but they are >> certainly not the same thing.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Absolutely everything is flowing in some way. Such is time. Such is you and your idiocies: flushed out.
From: mpc755 on 12 Jul 2010 21:46 On Jul 12, 9:17 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jul 11, 9:44 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 11, 11:31 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 11, 9:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 11, 10:59 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 11, 10:31 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 11, 1:18 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jul 5, 6:08 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear mpc755: Gravity is: "Mass proportional forces caused by flowing > > > > > > > ether (energy) that is replenished by the 'hobo' ether carried back > > > > > > > into space by the photons that are constantly being exchanged between > > > > > > > the attracted bodies." NoEinstein > > > > > > > Space does not flow into the Earth. > > > > > > Yes it does but it is a round geometry of point that flows inward to > > > > > center with a still aether counterpart. There are two sides to space > > > > > and two sides to time. Such is time for GR and SR. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > Space does not flow into the Earth. > > > > > Matter displaces dark matter. > > > > Dark matter is not at rest when displaced and 'displaces back'. > > > > The 'displacing back' is pressure exerted by displaced dark matter. > > > > Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity.. > > > > > You mistake the pressure exerted by displaced dark matter for a flow. > > > > > Gravitation, the 'Dark Matter' Effect and the Fine Structure Constanthttp://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0401047 > > > > > "There we see the first arguments that indicate the logical necessity > > > > for quantum behaviour, at both the spatial level and at the matter > > > > level. There space is, at one of the lowest levels, a quantumfoam > > > > system undergoing ongoing classicalisation. That model suggest that > > > > gravity is caused by matter changing the processing rate of the > > > > informational system that manifests as space, and as a consequence > > > > space effectively flows towards matter. However this is not a flow > > > > of some form of matter through space, as previously considered in > > > > the aether models or in the random particulate Le Sage kinetic > > > > theory of gravity, rather the flow is an ongoing rearrangement of the > > > > quantum-foam patterns that form space, and indeed only have a > > > > geometrical description at a coarse-grained level. Then the flow in > > > > one region is relative only to the patterns in nearby regions, and not > > > > relative to some a priori background geometrical space" > > > > > What is described as "space effectively flows towards matter" is the > > > > pressure exerted by the displaced dark matter towards the matter. > > > > > "Then the flow in one region is relative only to the patterns in > > > > nearby regions" is the pressure exerted by the displaced dark matter > > > > towards the matter and the pressure exerted by the displaced dark > > > > matter in nearby regions towards the matter. > > > > > Evidence of dark matter displacement: > > > > > 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter' > > > > hhttp://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur... > > > > > "The simulations show that when the two clusters smash together, the > > > > dark matter falls to the center of the combined cluster and sloshes > > > > back out." > > > > > "Astronomers using NASAs Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view > > > > of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two > > > > galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is > > > > somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the > > > > water." > > > > > A rock creates a ripple by displacing the water in a pond. > > > > > The two galaxy cluster collision is analogous to a collision between > > > > two boats. The two boat collision creates a ripple in the water. The > > > > ripple occurs because the boats displace water. > > > > > The ripple occurs because the galaxy clusters displace dark matter.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > It is possible to flow instantansously in each geometric point. Flow > > > may go nowhere itself but it flows energy through its space-time. > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > There is nothing that flows. Instead we are simply a part to the > > whole and operate at speeds and delays which have nothing to do with > > c. This c speed has been mixed up with "seeing" speed- but they are > > certainly not the same thing.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Absolutely everything is flowing in some way. Such is time. > > Mitch Raemsch Pressure. Not 'flow'. The rate at which an atomic clock ticks is based upon the dark matter pressure in which it exists.
From: GogoJF on 13 Jul 2010 13:15 On Jul 12, 8:46 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 12, 9:17 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 11, 9:44 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 11, 11:31 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 11, 9:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 11, 10:59 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 11, 10:31 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jul 11, 1:18 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Jul 5, 6:08 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear mpc755: Gravity is: "Mass proportional forces caused by flowing > > > > > > > > ether (energy) that is replenished by the 'hobo' ether carried back > > > > > > > > into space by the photons that are constantly being exchanged between > > > > > > > > the attracted bodies." NoEinstein > > > > > > > > Space does not flow into the Earth. > > > > > > > Yes it does but it is a round geometry of point that flows inward to > > > > > > center with a still aether counterpart. There are two sides to space > > > > > > and two sides to time. Such is time for GR and SR. > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > Space does not flow into the Earth. > > > > > > Matter displaces dark matter. > > > > > Dark matter is not at rest when displaced and 'displaces back'. > > > > > The 'displacing back' is pressure exerted by displaced dark matter. > > > > > Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity. > > > > > > You mistake the pressure exerted by displaced dark matter for a flow. > > > > > > Gravitation, the 'Dark Matter' Effect and the Fine Structure Constanthttp://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0401047 > > > > > > "There we see the first arguments that indicate the logical necessity > > > > > for quantum behaviour, at both the spatial level and at the matter > > > > > level. There space is, at one of the lowest levels, a quantumfoam > > > > > system undergoing ongoing classicalisation. That model suggest that > > > > > gravity is caused by matter changing the processing rate of the > > > > > informational system that manifests as space, and as a consequence > > > > > space effectively flows towards matter. However this is not a flow > > > > > of some form of matter through space, as previously considered in > > > > > the aether models or in the random particulate Le Sage kinetic > > > > > theory of gravity, rather the flow is an ongoing rearrangement of the > > > > > quantum-foam patterns that form space, and indeed only have a > > > > > geometrical description at a coarse-grained level. Then the flow in > > > > > one region is relative only to the patterns in nearby regions, and not > > > > > relative to some a priori background geometrical space" > > > > > > What is described as "space effectively flows towards matter" is the > > > > > pressure exerted by the displaced dark matter towards the matter. > > > > > > "Then the flow in one region is relative only to the patterns in > > > > > nearby regions" is the pressure exerted by the displaced dark matter > > > > > towards the matter and the pressure exerted by the displaced dark > > > > > matter in nearby regions towards the matter. > > > > > > Evidence of dark matter displacement: > > > > > > 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter' > > > > > hhttp://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur... > > > > > > "The simulations show that when the two clusters smash together, the > > > > > dark matter falls to the center of the combined cluster and sloshes > > > > > back out." > > > > > > "Astronomers using NASAs Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view > > > > > of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two > > > > > galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is > > > > > somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the > > > > > water." > > > > > > A rock creates a ripple by displacing the water in a pond. > > > > > > The two galaxy cluster collision is analogous to a collision between > > > > > two boats. The two boat collision creates a ripple in the water. The > > > > > ripple occurs because the boats displace water. > > > > > > The ripple occurs because the galaxy clusters displace dark matter.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > It is possible to flow instantansously in each geometric point. Flow > > > > may go nowhere itself but it flows energy through its space-time. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > There is nothing that flows. Instead we are simply a part to the > > > whole and operate at speeds and delays which have nothing to do with > > > c. This c speed has been mixed up with "seeing" speed- but they are > > > certainly not the same thing.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Absolutely everything is flowing in some way. Such is time. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > Pressure. Not 'flow'. The rate at which an atomic clock ticks is based > upon the dark matter pressure in which it exists. The Earth is buffeted by our atmosphere. The weather is a result of this buffet. Inside this sphere certainly has a different flow than outside the sphere. Inside the sphere is more like pressure. Outside the sphere is more like flow. What do you think Mitch, mpc755?
From: BURT on 13 Jul 2010 15:20
On Jul 12, 6:46 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 12, 9:17 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 11, 9:44 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 11, 11:31 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 11, 9:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 11, 10:59 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 11, 10:31 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jul 11, 1:18 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Jul 5, 6:08 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear mpc755: Gravity is: "Mass proportional forces caused by flowing > > > > > > > > ether (energy) that is replenished by the 'hobo' ether carried back > > > > > > > > into space by the photons that are constantly being exchanged between > > > > > > > > the attracted bodies." NoEinstein > > > > > > > > Space does not flow into the Earth. > > > > > > > Yes it does but it is a round geometry of point that flows inward to > > > > > > center with a still aether counterpart. There are two sides to space > > > > > > and two sides to time. Such is time for GR and SR. > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > Space does not flow into the Earth. > > > > > > Matter displaces dark matter. > > > > > Dark matter is not at rest when displaced and 'displaces back'. > > > > > The 'displacing back' is pressure exerted by displaced dark matter. > > > > > Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity. > > > > > > You mistake the pressure exerted by displaced dark matter for a flow. > > > > > > Gravitation, the 'Dark Matter' Effect and the Fine Structure Constanthttp://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0401047 > > > > > > "There we see the first arguments that indicate the logical necessity > > > > > for quantum behaviour, at both the spatial level and at the matter > > > > > level. There space is, at one of the lowest levels, a quantumfoam > > > > > system undergoing ongoing classicalisation. That model suggest that > > > > > gravity is caused by matter changing the processing rate of the > > > > > informational system that manifests as space, and as a consequence > > > > > space effectively flows towards matter. However this is not a flow > > > > > of some form of matter through space, as previously considered in > > > > > the aether models or in the random particulate Le Sage kinetic > > > > > theory of gravity, rather the flow is an ongoing rearrangement of the > > > > > quantum-foam patterns that form space, and indeed only have a > > > > > geometrical description at a coarse-grained level. Then the flow in > > > > > one region is relative only to the patterns in nearby regions, and not > > > > > relative to some a priori background geometrical space" > > > > > > What is described as "space effectively flows towards matter" is the > > > > > pressure exerted by the displaced dark matter towards the matter. > > > > > > "Then the flow in one region is relative only to the patterns in > > > > > nearby regions" is the pressure exerted by the displaced dark matter > > > > > towards the matter and the pressure exerted by the displaced dark > > > > > matter in nearby regions towards the matter. > > > > > > Evidence of dark matter displacement: > > > > > > 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter' > > > > > hhttp://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur... > > > > > > "The simulations show that when the two clusters smash together, the > > > > > dark matter falls to the center of the combined cluster and sloshes > > > > > back out." > > > > > > "Astronomers using NASAs Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view > > > > > of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two > > > > > galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is > > > > > somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the > > > > > water." > > > > > > A rock creates a ripple by displacing the water in a pond. > > > > > > The two galaxy cluster collision is analogous to a collision between > > > > > two boats. The two boat collision creates a ripple in the water. The > > > > > ripple occurs because the boats displace water. > > > > > > The ripple occurs because the galaxy clusters displace dark matter.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > It is possible to flow instantansously in each geometric point. Flow > > > > may go nowhere itself but it flows energy through its space-time. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > There is nothing that flows. Instead we are simply a part to the > > > whole and operate at speeds and delays which have nothing to do with > > > c. This c speed has been mixed up with "seeing" speed- but they are > > > certainly not the same thing.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Absolutely everything is flowing in some way. Such is time. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > Pressure. Not 'flow'. The rate at which an atomic clock ticks is based > upon the dark matter pressure in which it exists.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - No. Everything flows without exception. Mitch Raemsch |