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From: Robert Baer on 5 May 2010 00:20 Jim Thompson wrote: > On Tue, 4 May 2010 17:23:47 -0700, "Joel Koltner" > <zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> "George Jefferson" <phreon111(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:hrq9sa$k2f$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> Those people are either too stupid or too arrogant to realize that they are >>> most likely going to cause the complete collapse of their state in which >>> they will have much worse problems... >> I agree, there's certainly a non-negligible chance of that. >> >>> Of course America is heading down the same path... >> Once people have obtained a certain standard of living, it's an unusual >> individual who will take the long view of what's best for their country as >> well as their own best interests and accept a reduction; most people are >> pretty short-sighted in that regard. (This is likely heightened by people >> seeing the behavior the likes of AIG executives -- if those guys made huge >> incomes and even when they utterly failed were bailed out by the government so >> as to be able to continue living their oppulent lifestyles, why should I, the >> little guy, have to make any sacrifice either?) >> >> ---Joel >> > > What? You didn't contribute to Obama's campaign ?:-) > > ...Jim Thompson Maybe he is one of the 47% that does not pay taxes?
From: krw on 5 May 2010 00:39 On Tue, 04 May 2010 21:20:44 -0700, Robert Baer <robertbaer(a)localnet.com> wrote: >Jim Thompson wrote: >> On Tue, 4 May 2010 17:23:47 -0700, "Joel Koltner" >> <zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> "George Jefferson" <phreon111(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:hrq9sa$k2f$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> Those people are either too stupid or too arrogant to realize that they are >>>> most likely going to cause the complete collapse of their state in which >>>> they will have much worse problems... >>> I agree, there's certainly a non-negligible chance of that. >>> >>>> Of course America is heading down the same path... >>> Once people have obtained a certain standard of living, it's an unusual >>> individual who will take the long view of what's best for their country as >>> well as their own best interests and accept a reduction; most people are >>> pretty short-sighted in that regard. (This is likely heightened by people >>> seeing the behavior the likes of AIG executives -- if those guys made huge >>> incomes and even when they utterly failed were bailed out by the government so >>> as to be able to continue living their oppulent lifestyles, why should I, the >>> little guy, have to make any sacrifice either?) >>> >>> ---Joel >>> >> >> What? You didn't contribute to Obama's campaign ?:-) >> >> ...Jim Thompson > Maybe he is one of the 47% that does not pay taxes? Is he in Obummer's cabinet?
From: George Jefferson on 5 May 2010 01:06 "Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:qU2En.239030$Up1.238952(a)en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com... > "George Jefferson" <phreon111(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:hrq9sa$k2f$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> Those people are either too stupid or too arrogant to realize that they >> are most likely going to cause the complete collapse of their state in >> which they will have much worse problems... > > I agree, there's certainly a non-negligible chance of that. > >> Of course America is heading down the same path... > > Once people have obtained a certain standard of living, it's an unusual > individual who will take the long view of what's best for their country as > well as their own best interests and accept a reduction; most people are > pretty short-sighted in that regard. (This is likely heightened by people > seeing the behavior the likes of AIG executives -- if those guys made huge > incomes and even when they utterly failed were bailed out by the > government so as to be able to continue living their oppulent lifestyles, > why should I, the little guy, have to make any sacrifice either?) And this is the problem with big government. Big government enables this type of behavior. Once the government reaches a certain size it is impossible for it to be idle because too many people will do whatever it takes to keep their standard of living up... including those in the government.
From: Okkim Atnarivik on 5 May 2010 10:06 Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)on-my-web-site.com> wrote: : On Tue, 4 May 2010 17:23:47 -0700, "Joel Koltner" : >individual who will take the long view of what's best for their country as : >well as their own best interests and accept a reduction; most people are : >pretty short-sighted in that regard. (This is likely heightened by people : >seeing the behavior the likes of AIG executives -- if those guys made huge : >incomes and even when they utterly failed were bailed out by the government so : >as to be able to continue living their oppulent lifestyles, why should I, the : >little guy, have to make any sacrifice either?) : : What? You didn't contribute to Obama's campaign ?:-) : : ...Jim Thompson You think McCain would not have bailed out the AIG ? No insult intended - I'm just curious what you think the alternative scenario would have been. Regards, Mikko
From: Jim Thompson on 5 May 2010 10:24
On Wed, 5 May 2010 17:06:17 +0300 (EEST), Okkim Atnarivik <Okkim.Atnarivik(a)24.fi.invalid> wrote: >Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)on-my-web-site.com> wrote: >: On Tue, 4 May 2010 17:23:47 -0700, "Joel Koltner" >: >individual who will take the long view of what's best for their country as >: >well as their own best interests and accept a reduction; most people are >: >pretty short-sighted in that regard. (This is likely heightened by people >: >seeing the behavior the likes of AIG executives -- if those guys made huge >: >incomes and even when they utterly failed were bailed out by the government so >: >as to be able to continue living their oppulent lifestyles, why should I, the >: >little guy, have to make any sacrifice either?) >: >: What? You didn't contribute to Obama's campaign ?:-) >: >: ...Jim Thompson > > You think McCain would not have bailed out the AIG ? No insult intended - I'm not certain, but probably. >I'm just curious what you think the alternative scenario would have been. > > Regards, > Mikko Like any other business failure... it'd resolve itself. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | The only thing bipartisan in this country is hypocrisy |