Greenland ice sheet faces 'tipping point in 10 years'
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From: Catoni on 10 Aug 2010 17:39 Sam Wormlry posted: >"Some of those things have already happened. You should pay more > attention!" Reply: Okay Sam. Can you tell us just two things on that list that have happened? Can you tell us even one? ?
From: Mickey Langan on 10 Aug 2010 18:10 On 2010-08-10, Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 8/10/10 2:41 PM, tunderbar wrote: >> On Aug 10, 2:39 pm, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Greenland ice sheet faces 'tipping point in 10 >>> years'http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/aug/10/greenland-ice-sheet... >>> >>> "Sometime in the next decade we may pass that tipping point which would >>> put us warmer than temperatures that Greenland can survive," Alley told >>> a briefing in Congress, adding that a rise in the range of 2C to 7C >>> would mean the obliteration of Greenland's ice sheet. >>> >>> The fall-out would be felt thousands of miles away from the Arctic, >>> unleashing a global sea level rise of 23ft (7 metres), Alley warned. >>> Low-lying cities such as New Orleans would vanish. >>> >>> "What is going on in the Arctic now is the biggest and fastest thing >>> that nature has ever done," he said. >> >> http://www.ihatethemedia.com/earth-day-predictions-of-1970-the-reason-you-should-not-believe-earth-day-predictions-of-2009 >> >> Here are some of the hilarious, spectacularly wrong predictions made >> on the occasion of Earth Day 1970. >> >> �We have about five more years at the outside to do something.� >> � Kenneth Watt, ecologist >> >> �Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action >> is taken against problems facing mankind.� >> � George Wald, Harvard Biologist >> >> �We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of >> this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human >> habitation.� >> � Barry Commoner, Washington University biologist >> >> �Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to >> enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration >> and possible extinction.� >> � New York Times editorial, the day after the first Earth Day >> >> �Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small >> increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until >> at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death >> during the next ten years.� >> � Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist >> >> �By�[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated >> the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of >> unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the >> ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of >> the 1980s.� >> � Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist >> >> �It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.� >> � Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day >> >> �Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim >> timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will >> spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near >> East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and >> Central America will exist under famine conditions�.By the year 2000, >> thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western >> Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.� >> � Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University >> >> �Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to >> support�the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will >> have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution�by 1985 air pollution >> will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one >> half�.� >> � Life Magazine, January 1970 >> >> �At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it�s only a matter of time >> before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our >> land will be usable.� >> � Kenneth Watt, Ecologist >> >> >> >> Stanford's Paul Ehrlich announces that the sky is falling. >> �Air pollution�is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of >> lives in the next few years alone.� >> � Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist >> >> �We are prospecting for the very last of our resources and using up >> the nonrenewable things many times faster than we are finding new >> ones.� >> � Martin Litton, Sierra Club director >> >> �By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up >> crude oil at such a rate�that there won�t be any more crude oil. >> You�ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill �er up, buddy,� and he�ll >> say, `I am very sorry, there isn�t any.�� >> � Kenneth Watt, Ecologist >> >> �Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, >> believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all >> the species of living animals will be extinct.� >> � Sen. Gaylord Nelson >> >> �The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If >> present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder >> for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in >> the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into >> an ice age.� >> � Kenneth Watt, Ecologist >> >> Keep these predictions in mind when you hear the same predictions made >> today. They�ve been making the same predictions for 39 years. And >> they�re going to continue making them until�well�forever. >> >> Here we are, 39 years later and the economy sucks, but the ecology�s >> fine. In fact this planet is doing a lot better than the planet on >> which those green lunatics live. >> > > Some of those things have already happened. You should pay more > attention! > Now all you have to do is enlighten us on which ones. -- Mickey "The biofuels debacle is global warm-mongering in a nutshell: The first victims of poseur environmentalism will always be developing countries. In order for you to put biofuel in your Prius and feel good about yourself for no reason, real actual people in faraway places have to starve to death." -Mark Steyn
From: Catoni on 10 Aug 2010 19:46 On Aug 10, 3:39 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Greenland ice sheet faces 'tipping point in 10 > years'http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/aug/10/greenland-ice-sheet... > > "Sometime in the next decade we may pass that tipping point which would > put us warmer than temperatures that Greenland can survive," Alley told > a briefing in Congress, adding that a rise in the range of 2C to 7C > would mean the obliteration of Greenland's ice sheet. > > The fall-out would be felt thousands of miles away from the Arctic, > unleashing a global sea level rise of 23ft (7 metres), Alley warned. > Low-lying cities such as New Orleans would vanish. > > "What is going on in the Arctic now is the biggest and fastest thing > that nature has ever done," he said. Lies from someone who wishes to deceive...... or else is totally ignorant of what nature has done in the past.. One, or the other..... So sad and unfortunate....
From: gordo on 10 Aug 2010 19:47 On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 14:39:44 -0500, Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Greenland ice sheet faces 'tipping point in 10 >years'http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/aug/10/greenland-ice-sheet-tipping-point > >"Sometime in the next decade we may pass that tipping point which would >put us warmer than temperatures that Greenland can survive," Alley told >a briefing in Congress, adding that a rise in the range of 2C to 7C >would mean the obliteration of Greenland's ice sheet. Tundy changes the subject but I would ask where is the science and who is Richard Alley?It seems he is a scientist and there is a short video which tundy or catony could watch.They won't of course but I wonder what credentials they have to match Dr. Richard Alley? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4GThA35s1s >The fall-out would be felt thousands of miles away from the Arctic, >unleashing a global sea level rise of 23ft (7 metres), Alley warned. >Low-lying cities such as New Orleans would vanish. > >"What is going on in the Arctic now is the biggest and fastest thing >that nature has ever done," he said. For a good look at the good Dr. check this out http://passporttoknowledge.com/polar-palooza/pps02.php
From: James on 10 Aug 2010 21:38 "tunderbar" <tdcomeau(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:da62725a-afaa-4727-8019-e520237645ff(a)f6g2000yqa.googlegroups.com > On Aug 10, 3:00 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On 8/10/10 2:41 PM, tunderbar wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Aug 10, 2:39 pm, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Greenland ice sheet faces 'tipping point in 10 >>>> years'http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/aug/10/greenland-ice-sheet... >> >>>> "Sometime in the next decade we may pass that tipping point which >>>> would put us warmer than temperatures that Greenland can survive," >>>> Alley told a briefing in Congress, adding that a rise in the range >>>> of 2C to 7C would mean the obliteration of Greenland's ice sheet. >> >>>> The fall-out would be felt thousands of miles away from the Arctic, >>>> unleashing a global sea level rise of 23ft (7 metres), Alley >>>> warned. Low-lying cities such as New Orleans would vanish. >> >>>> "What is going on in the Arctic now is the biggest and fastest >>>> thing that nature has ever done," he said. >> >>> http://www.ihatethemedia.com/earth-day-predictions-of-1970-the-reason... >> >>> Here are some of the hilarious, spectacularly wrong predictions made >>> on the occasion of Earth Day 1970. >> >>> �We have about five more years at the outside to do something.� >>> � Kenneth Watt, ecologist >> >>> �Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action >>> is taken against problems facing mankind.� >>> � George Wald, Harvard Biologist >> >>> �We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of >>> this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human >>> habitation.� >>> � Barry Commoner, Washington University biologist >> >>> �Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to >>> enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable >>> deterioration and possible extinction.� >>> � New York Times editorial, the day after the first Earth Day >> >>> �Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small >>> increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase >>> until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to >>> death during the next ten years.� >>> � Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist >> >>> �By�[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated >>> the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of >>> unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the >>> ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade >>> of the 1980s.� >>> � Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist >> >>> �It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.� >>> � Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day >> >>> �Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim >>> timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these >>> will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and >>> the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, >>> South and Central America will exist under famine conditions�.By >>> the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the >>> exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be >>> in famine.� >>> � Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University >> >>> �Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to >>> support�the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will >>> have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution�by 1985 air >>> pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth >>> by one half�.� >>> � Life Magazine, January 1970 >> >>> �At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it�s only a matter of time >>> before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our >>> land will be usable.� >>> � Kenneth Watt, Ecologist >> >>> Stanford's Paul Ehrlich announces that the sky is falling. >>> �Air pollution�is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of >>> lives in the next few years alone.� >>> � Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist >> >>> �We are prospecting for the very last of our resources and using up >>> the nonrenewable things many times faster than we are finding new >>> ones.� >>> � Martin Litton, Sierra Club director >> >>> �By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up >>> crude oil at such a rate�that there won�t be any more crude oil. >>> You�ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill �er up, buddy,� and he�ll >>> say, `I am very sorry, there isn�t any.�� >>> � Kenneth Watt, Ecologist >> >>> �Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, >>> believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of >>> all the species of living animals will be extinct.� >>> � Sen. Gaylord Nelson >> >>> �The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If >>> present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder >>> for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder >>> in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us >>> into an ice age.� >>> � Kenneth Watt, Ecologist >> >>> Keep these predictions in mind when you hear the same predictions >>> made today. They�ve been making the same predictions for 39 years. >>> And they�re going to continue making them until�well�forever. >> >>> Here we are, 39 years later and the economy sucks, but the ecology�s >>> fine. In fact this planet is doing a lot better than the planet on >>> which those green lunatics live. >> >> Some of those things have already happened. You should pay more >> attention!- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > LOL. *** NONE *** of those things have happened. *** NONE *** > > You are yet another joke of an agwer. How many tipping points have come and gone?
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