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From: Charlie-Boo on 5 Nov 2009 12:52 I am thinking of two things. Can you guess what either is? You can ask as many questions as you want and I will (truthfully) answer all that I can. They dont even have to be yes/no (finite multiple choice) questions. You just cant ask, What are you thinking about?! C-B
From: John Jones on 5 Nov 2009 16:51 Charlie-Boo wrote: > I am thinking of two things. Can you guess what either is? According to Wittgenstein (Tractatus), statements of the sort "there are two objects" or "7 is a number" are nonsensical. > > You can ask as many questions as you want and I will (truthfully) > answer all that I can. > > They don�t even have to be yes/no (finite multiple choice) questions. > > You just can�t ask, �What are you thinking about?�! > > C-B Objects are given through their presentation, or through a presentation of their symbol. That is, you are asking us to consider the possibility of a hidden presentation. I don't think that's on at all.
From: Charlie-Boo on 5 Nov 2009 17:11 On Nov 5, 4:51 pm, John Jones <jonescard...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > Charlie-Boo wrote: > > I am thinking of two things. Can you guess what either is? > > According to Wittgenstein (Tractatus), statements of the sort "there are > two objects" or "7 is a number" are nonsensical. They seem ok in Mathematics. > > You can ask as many questions as you want and I will (truthfully) > > answer all that I can. > > > They dont even have to be yes/no (finite multiple choice) questions. > > > You just cant ask, What are you thinking about?! > > > C-B > > Objects are given through their presentation, or through a presentation > of their symbol. > > That is, you are asking us to consider the possibility of a hidden > presentation. I don't think that's on at all. You could have asked, "What are you thinking of?" if I hadn't added the extra condition prohibiting it, so there are solutions. Just asking if there are other solutions than the one that I ruled out. C-B
From: James Burns on 5 Nov 2009 17:32 Charlie-Boo wrote: > On Nov 5, 4:51 pm, John Jones <jonescard...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > >>Charlie-Boo wrote: >> >>>I am thinking of two things. Can you guess what either is? >> >>According to Wittgenstein (Tractatus), statements of the sort "there are >>two objects" or "7 is a number" are nonsensical. > > > They seem ok in Mathematics. > > >>>You can ask as many questions as you want and I will (truthfully) >>>answer all that I can. >> >>>They don�t even have to be yes/no (finite multiple choice) questions. >> >>>You just can�t ask, �What are you thinking about?�! >> >>>C-B >> >>Objects are given through their presentation, or through a presentation >>of their symbol. >> >>That is, you are asking us to consider the possibility of a hidden >>presentation. I don't think that's on at all. > > You could have asked, "What are you thinking of?" if I hadn't added > the extra condition prohibiting it, so there are solutions. Just > asking if there are other solutions than the one that I ruled out. Ah. A game different from the one I thought you were playing. If I were permitted to ask "What are you thinking of?" and did, and you answered honestly, what would you answer? Jim Burns
From: Peter Webb on 7 Nov 2009 12:13 "Charlie-Boo" <shymathguy(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:6fc85553-d21b-4bb7-8cbe-7c869f54f9fe(a)z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com... I am thinking of two things. Can you guess what either is? You can ask as many questions as you want and I will (truthfully) answer all that I can. They don�t even have to be yes/no (finite multiple choice) questions. ______________________________ I'll play. Does the first one start with the letter "A" ? You just can�t ask, �What are you thinking about?�! C-B
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