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From: JB on 28 Aug 2006 13:03 Jean-Yves Avenard wrote: > JB wrote: > > you will be on the page that is titled HP Graphing Calculators where > > you are prompted to select your calculator from a list of calculator > > models but you notice that the HP 50g is not on the list!!! > the hp50 has just been released. > I wouldn't put too much emphasis for what appears on a web site when the > calculator hasn't been out for a month yet > > think I'll pass on buying a 50g and wait for the TI-inspire due out > > after the first of the year and see what it provides. > And when is the N'spire supposed to be out? > > From the various web site I gather it won't be available outside of a > few european countries > > JY Hello JY you asked when is the N'spire supposed to be out? >From what I gather from various web sites, the Ti-inspire is due out in the spring in the US, and I have a voyage 200 that I use all the time and my 200 has never had any any hardware or software problems. It's just that I like to have the latest gadets. So I thought I might by a 50g, but to be honest I've had faulty products from HP before and then sat on hold for literally hours trying to get some customer service, so I am very skeptical that everything is fine now with HP and with the 50g. I guess I'll just wait a while and see what happens. Sometimes it takes a while for problems to show up in a new product and if problems do show up in the 50g, I'm skeptical that HP would do anything to remedy the bad stuff they already shipped. I mean just consider how many calc's they must have shipped with with poor keyboards. I do see some enthusiasm on this site for the 50g though but I think it quite likely that most of those messages are coming from Hp marketing personel? Thanks for the question. I guess I got to long winded in answering it. - JB
From: JB on 28 Aug 2006 13:12 Michael Kuyumcu wrote: > Hi Jean-Yves, > > I have already worked with prototypes of the N'spire. The battery life > time was about 3 to 4 hours when the calculator was running, rebooting > took about a full minute to load a custom-written OS for the calc. The > CAS was still very buggy (we found 5 serious problems within 15 > minutes), while the dynamic graphics package is already working > smoothly though not elegantly. There is an extensive test review on > this N'spire prototype available at > http://www.noemanetz.de/folgeseiten/artikel/CIMS-SH_Fortbildung.html > but it's in German only. > > The N'spire, according to a TI representative I met in person was > supposed to be out by August, but it's not. The latest new publishing > date is planned as "September", but my colleagues and I doubt that. TI > allegedly wants to change the batteries to lithium cells, which should > take a bit of readjustment. And you just can't trust the CAS at the > moment. One minute, it solves a system of linear equations with 2 > unknowns, and the other moment it wouldn't. One minute, you can grab a > parabola and change it dynamically with the "mouse pointer" (there is > no mouse), the other it refuses to work. The solution of the TI > representative to this problem was spectactular: remove all 4 batteries > from the device, put them into another one, power that one up, and > suddenly it worked... > > Regards, > Michael Kuyumcu > > > > Jean-Yves Avenard wrote: > > JB wrote: > > > you will be on the page that is titled HP Graphing Calculators where > > > you are prompted to select your calculator from a list of calculator > > > models but you notice that the HP 50g is not on the list!!! > > the hp50 has just been released. > > I wouldn't put too much emphasis for what appears on a web site when the > > calculator hasn't been out for a month yet > > > think I'll pass on buying a 50g and wait for the TI-inspire due out > > > after the first of the year and see what it provides. > > And when is the N'spire supposed to be out? > > > > From the various web site I gather it won't be available outside of a > > few european countries > > > > JY To reply to Michael Kuyumcu: I guess that is the difference between Ti and Hp. Ti fixes product problems BEFORE they release the product.
From: laurent.joliaferrier on 28 Aug 2006 14:34 Jean-Yves Avenard wrote: > JB wrote: > > you will be on the page that is titled HP Graphing Calculators where > > you are prompted to select your calculator from a list of calculator > > models but you notice that the HP 50g is not on the list!!! > the hp50 has just been released. > I wouldn't put too much emphasis for what appears on a web site when the > calculator hasn't been out for a month yet > > think I'll pass on buying a 50g and wait for the TI-inspire due out > > after the first of the year and see what it provides. > And when is the N'spire supposed to be out? > > From the various web site I gather it won't be available outside of a > few european countries > > JY Dynatech (www.dynatech.com) remove all information about TI Nspire today. They don't know when it will be released.
From: Veli-Pekka Nousiainen on 28 Aug 2006 17:17 JB wrote: X > and my 200 has never had any any hardware or software problems. X It has bugs and the keyboard of the TI's has never been quite right mushy...at least my TI-89 HW1 was...
From: John H Meyers on 28 Aug 2006 18:34
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:08:16 -0500, JB wrote: > I have never heard of a bad batch with my two TI calc's. It wasn't an isolated "bad batch" -- it was a completely bad physical keyboard design, which then was revised for all succeeding production (and then a third version, which finally produced faultless keyboards for the 49G+ and continues for all 50G). Even early, faulty keyboard "bounce" was largely compensated for by ROM adjustments, although "keys breaking off" was not :) TI, of course, has never had poor physical production (dirt-collecting screens, "mushy" keys...) > what telephone number would I call at HP > for calculator customer service. TI has the toll free number > 1-800-TI-CARES to resolve any calculator issues so I assume > that HP has a similiar number but I may be wrong. Why, you seem to be right! In the back of my 49G+ User's Manual are service phone numbers for every country, USA/Canada sharing 800-HP-INVENT (which answered immediately when I just called). This seems to bring up an old question: Which is worth more -- a pound of invention or a pound of care? I get "Error: Inconsistent Units" [r->] [OFF] |