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From: Michael Kuyumcu on 31 Aug 2006 10:08 Hi, on the programmability: it seems that you can use the provided programming constructs in *functions only*. The catalog lists no TEXT command, no DISP, and if you want information on the programming constructs, you get the comment "Command for use in functions". The programming constructs offered are: Func...EndFunc Local If If...Then...Endif If...Then...Else...Endif Elseif...Then For...EndFor While...EndWhile Loop...EndLoop Exit Cycle Return GoTo Lbl Insert New Line Insert Comment (a small c within a circle) Could you combine two or three of these commands for a test function for me, please? So we know whether the programming functionality actually works. Thanks! Regards, Michael Kuyumcu Yao Konan wrote: > Hi Mr Kuyumcu, > > In fact i would just want to know 2 or 3 things if you have had the > time to slighty explore the tool: > > * Does it have 3D plotting at all ? > * Does it look notably faster than the TI89 Titanium ? > * Is it programmable at all ? > > Thanks in advance. > > Michael Kuyumcu a écrit : > > > Hi Yao Konan, > > > > thanks for your interest in the Nspire. > > > > I have not written any tests yet (it's very new), and if/when I should > > do so, it probably will be in German. I don't know whether or not I > > will publish that review online or only mail it to TI. Maybe I will > > publish a web URL on the HP group although it feels strange to annouce > > something about a competitor's product on the HP list. > > > > So there are a lot of maybe's here, and I don't know if I will find the > > time soon. As a teacher, there are many other things on my mind. I am > > sure you will understand. > > > > Regards, > > Michael Kuyumcu > > > > Yao Konan wrote: > > > Hi i am very interested by any kind of review about the TI-Nspire. > > > As you have the opportunity to work with prototype could you do a > > > review of these prototypes or agree to answer some questions regarding > > > them ? > > > Thanks.
From: Yao Konan on 31 Aug 2006 12:53 Yes off course. Let's try the iterative fibonnacci number computation: Define Fib(n)=Func: Local i,k1,k2,r if n<1:return "Unknown value":0->k1:1->k2: For i,1,n:k2->r:k1+k2->k2:r->k1:EndFor:Return k2:EndFor: EndFunc Michael Kuyumcu a écrit : > Hi, > > on the programmability: it seems that you can use the provided > programming constructs in *functions only*. The catalog lists no TEXT > command, no DISP, and if you want information on the programming > constructs, you get the comment "Command for use in functions". > > The programming constructs offered are: > Func...EndFunc > Local > If > If...Then...Endif > If...Then...Else...Endif > Elseif...Then > For...EndFor > While...EndWhile > Loop...EndLoop > Exit > Cycle > Return > GoTo Lbl > Insert New Line > Insert Comment (a small c within a circle) > > Could you combine two or three of these commands for a test function > for me, please? So we know whether the programming functionality > actually works. Thanks! > > Regards, > Michael Kuyumcu > > > > > Yao Konan wrote: > > Hi Mr Kuyumcu, > > > > In fact i would just want to know 2 or 3 things if you have had the > > time to slighty explore the tool: > > > > * Does it have 3D plotting at all ? > > * Does it look notably faster than the TI89 Titanium ? > > * Is it programmable at all ? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Michael Kuyumcu a écrit : > > > > > Hi Yao Konan, > > > > > > thanks for your interest in the Nspire. > > > > > > I have not written any tests yet (it's very new), and if/when I should > > > do so, it probably will be in German. I don't know whether or not I > > > will publish that review online or only mail it to TI. Maybe I will > > > publish a web URL on the HP group although it feels strange to annouce > > > something about a competitor's product on the HP list. > > > > > > So there are a lot of maybe's here, and I don't know if I will find the > > > time soon. As a teacher, there are many other things on my mind. I am > > > sure you will understand. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Michael Kuyumcu > > > > > > Yao Konan wrote: > > > > Hi i am very interested by any kind of review about the TI-Nspire. > > > > As you have the opportunity to work with prototype could you do a > > > > review of these prototypes or agree to answer some questions regarding > > > > them ? > > > > Thanks.
From: Yao Konan on 31 Aug 2006 13:09 32 MB of RAM ? I thought that the TI-NSpire had 16 MB of RAM and 20 MB of Flash ROM availlabe for the user ? Michael Kuyumcu a écrit : > Hi JB, > > I have never used the TI 89 and Voyage series seriously. Up until > recently, when I got the 49g+, my veteran TI 66 and Mathematica > (university) had been quite sufficient. From the capacity of the Nspire > (over 32 MB of RAM, of which more than 24 MB are freely availabe to the > user), I would say it's the next step of TI. But it is clearly geared > toward the education market, while definitely not exclusively so. I > can't detect any expansion slots which I know from the SD card slot of > the HP (which is an advantage). I don't think most people would > consider it for the ed market only. > > Regards, > Michael Kuyumcu > > > > > JB wrote: > > > Hi Michael, A quick question. Do you think the Tinspire is so > > education oriented that it will be considered by most people to be a > > speciality item for the education market only, or is it clearly the > > next generation TI top of the line calculator which will replace TI's > > 89 and voyage 200 series? I know you are busy, but I have been > > curious about this for quite some time, and would greatly appreciate > > knowing your opinion on this question. Thanks, JB
From: Yao Konan on 31 Aug 2006 13:13 Hi, It seems that the Nspire accepts only functions and no programs in the TI92 sense. This is very annoying as functions as somehow limited compared to programs. On the TI92 series functions can not modify or create global variables. They can't also use Dialog boxes or change System Settings or use Command for things such as plotting,etc.... Moreover it seems that the TI-Nspire is case un sensitive like the TI92. Is there a limit to 8 characters for the variables names ? Is it possible to create folders within a problem ? Is there a tree directory structure for documents ? I fear that there is no way to execute the program i gave. The fact that it returns endprgm,means that it doesn't recognize the structure otherwise it would returns Done and hello() would open a Dialog Box. Michael Kuyumcu a écrit : > Hi, > > I have tried writing the Hello World program in Notes. I can save the > file, but there is no way to tokenize it, it seems (at least no menu > entry offers to do just that). Then I have used the Define command in > the CAS. For instance, you can write there: > > Define g(x)=x*x Done > > and when you write g(2), the calc answers with 4. > > When I Defined the Hello World program with > Define hello()=Prgm:text "Hello World":EndPrgm, > > the calculator did not answer with "Done", as above, but with > "endprgm". It seems that either it has recognized a special construct > (prgm...endprgm) or it has just repeated the last colon-separated part > of the definition. Anyhow, when I now write hello(), it replies with > "text·"Hello World". So my guess is the software has recognized the > Prgm...EndPrgm construct, but sees no way to really execute it. By the > way, all keyword letters are de-capitalized after entry. > > What do you think? How could I possibly *call*/execute that defined > function? > > Regards, > Michael Kuyumcu > > > > > >
From: Yao Konan on 31 Aug 2006 14:32
Well i have done a slight error in my previous post, so the good version: Define Fib(n)=Func: Local i,k1,k2,r if n<1: return "Unknown value": 0->k1:1->k2: For i,1,n: k2->r: k1+k2->k2:r->k1: EndFor: Return k2: EndFunc Michael Kuyumcu a écrit : > Hi, > > on the programmability: it seems that you can use the provided > programming constructs in *functions only*. The catalog lists no TEXT > command, no DISP, and if you want information on the programming > constructs, you get the comment "Command for use in functions". > > The programming constructs offered are: > Func...EndFunc > Local > If > If...Then...Endif > If...Then...Else...Endif > Elseif...Then > For...EndFor > While...EndWhile > Loop...EndLoop > Exit > Cycle > Return > GoTo Lbl > Insert New Line > Insert Comment (a small c within a circle) > > Could you combine two or three of these commands for a test function > for me, please? So we know whether the programming functionality > actually works. Thanks! > > Regards, > Michael Kuyumcu > > > > > Yao Konan wrote: > > Hi Mr Kuyumcu, > > > > In fact i would just want to know 2 or 3 things if you have had the > > time to slighty explore the tool: > > > > * Does it have 3D plotting at all ? > > * Does it look notably faster than the TI89 Titanium ? > > * Is it programmable at all ? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Michael Kuyumcu a écrit : > > > > > Hi Yao Konan, > > > > > > thanks for your interest in the Nspire. > > > > > > I have not written any tests yet (it's very new), and if/when I should > > > do so, it probably will be in German. I don't know whether or not I > > > will publish that review online or only mail it to TI. Maybe I will > > > publish a web URL on the HP group although it feels strange to annouce > > > something about a competitor's product on the HP list. > > > > > > So there are a lot of maybe's here, and I don't know if I will find the > > > time soon. As a teacher, there are many other things on my mind. I am > > > sure you will understand. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Michael Kuyumcu > > > > > > Yao Konan wrote: > > > > Hi i am very interested by any kind of review about the TI-Nspire. > > > > As you have the opportunity to work with prototype could you do a > > > > review of these prototypes or agree to answer some questions regarding > > > > them ? > > > > Thanks. |