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From: Mike Rosenberg on 16 Jun 2010 09:08 Warren Oates <warren.oates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Poking sticks into a lunatic christer isn't "bullying" it's just good > clean fun. More fun than soccer. I've felt this way: It went "zip" when it moved and "bop" when it stopped, And "whirr" when it stood still. I never knew just what it was and I guess I never will. -- Favorite yoga position: Rosh hashavasana, the high holy pose Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi>
From: Mike Rosenberg on 16 Jun 2010 09:29 Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > > I've felt this way: > > > > It went "zip" when it moved and "bop" when it stopped, > > And "whirr" when it stood still. > > I never knew just what it was and I guess I never will. > > One of my favorite songs. > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLYefZkOMB0> > > I like this version for the graphics > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tT_YO16lbU> > Exterminate! Thanks! Just want to make sure we give credit somewhere to Tom Paxton for writing the song. -- Favorite yoga position: Rosh hashavasana, the high holy pose Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi>
From: Ed Mullen on 16 Jun 2010 20:04 Mike Rosenberg wrote: > Warren Oates<warren.oates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Poking sticks into a lunatic christer isn't "bullying" it's just good >> clean fun. More fun than soccer. > > I've felt this way: > > It went "zip" when it moved and "bop" when it stopped, > And "whirr" when it stood still. > I never knew just what it was and I guess I never will. > At least give t6he attribution to Tom Paxton, ok? -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net Do cemetery workers prefer the graveyard shift?
From: krishnananda on 16 Jun 2010 21:06 In article <dorayme-E05354.08540117062010(a)news.albasani.net>, dorayme <dorayme(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > And how do you calculate the volume of self-righteousness, could > there be more than on the Mac groups than I have seen these past > years? Remember, you are in the killfile of a man on the Mac end > of this see-saw, and, from what I have observed of him, has an I dunno, the entire rec.photo.* hierarchy has more self-righteous ignorant pedantic flame war activity than I've seen anywhere else other than the alt.religion.buddhism.* hierarchy. And we Buddhists used to have the reputation of being nice and polite...
From: dorayme on 18 Jun 2010 06:48
In article <slrni1m60d.557.spamspam(a)bowser.marioworld>, Ben C <spamspam(a)spam.eggs> wrote: > On 2010-06-16, dorayme <dorayme(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: .... > >...I had a theory once, now slightly softened, that all > > religious people must be mad because they could not possibly > > believe such way out things sanely. > > You have to consider all the everyday things non-religious people also > believe with no more evidence. > What everyday things? Like that it is bad to walk under ladders? Or things more systematic that build whole world views, control others, take over governments, direct state wealth, schooling of children, demean the female half of their societies, ... > Also the meaning of the word "I believe", especially in the context of > religion. This word has a first-person assymmetry at the best of times > (if you _really_ believed something, were _really_ deluded, you'd just > say "I know"). > > As for expressions like "I believe in" those belong almost completely to > religion. An outsider has to be careful he knows what they mean before > dismissing them. > > Generally there really isn't that much difference between a religious > person and a non-religious one (I include atheism as a religion). If simply not believing in theism is atheism, it is no more a religion than it is *a theory* that there is no phlogiston, ghosts, fairies. > Lunatics are available in all flavours. Yes, I agree. As I said, I have softened. About belief: as it happens, there are few people who believe in a god or gods. There is a sharpish distinction between someone claiming to believe, saying they believe, acting a bit like they believe on the one hand and really believing on the other. It is highly unlikely that most of those church members really believe all that rubbish they spout. To truly believe something you must be prepared to bet something that quite clearly means something to you, the loss of which would not easily be borne. Often it is, to sum it up, money! But not always and never the only thing. Your *average* religious pretender has little to lose if he is wrong, nothing that clearly means something to him is at stake. He gets all the benefits, such as they are, from merely thinking and acting as if he believes. -- dorayme |