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From: Rowland McDonnell on 22 Jan 2010 05:27
Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
> > SM <info(a)that.sundog.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> There's a trial of HTML5 video here:
> >>
> >> <http://www.youtube.com/testtube>
> >>
> >> It's great to see video without the fan-spinning of Flash on Macs.
> >
> ><puzzled> Fan spinning? Is that a reference to the horribly
> > inefficient decoding process with Flash video?
>
> It's a reference to the fact that Flash is very cpu-intensive.

CPU inefficient, you mean.

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From: Jim on 22 Jan 2010 05:31
On 2010-01-22, Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> >> There's a trial of HTML5 video here:
>> >>
>> >> <http://www.youtube.com/testtube>
>> >>
>> >> It's great to see video without the fan-spinning of Flash on Macs.
>> >
>> ><puzzled> Fan spinning? Is that a reference to the horribly
>> > inefficient decoding process with Flash video?
>>
>> It's a reference to the fact that Flash is very cpu-intensive.
>
> CPU inefficient, you mean.

No, I mean it's cpu-intensive. I don't personally know why it is, but your
assumption of it being ineficient seems likely.

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From: Woody on 22 Jan 2010 05:43
On 22/01/2010 10:31, Jim wrote:
> On 2010-01-22, Rowland McDonnell<real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There's a trial of HTML5 video here:
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/testtube>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's great to see video without the fan-spinning of Flash on Macs.
>>>>
>>>> <puzzled> Fan spinning? Is that a reference to the horribly
>>>> inefficient decoding process with Flash video?
>>>
>>> It's a reference to the fact that Flash is very cpu-intensive.
>>
>> CPU inefficient, you mean.
>
> No, I mean it's cpu-intensive. I don't personally know why it is, but your
> assumption of it being ineficient seems likely.

Without something else doing it or looking at the code there is simply
no way to know if it is inefficient or not.

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From: Rowland McDonnell on 22 Jan 2010 06:08
Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> There's a trial of HTML5 video here:
> >> >>
> >> >> <http://www.youtube.com/testtube>
> >> >>
> >> >> It's great to see video without the fan-spinning of Flash on Macs.
> >> >
> >> ><puzzled> Fan spinning? Is that a reference to the horribly
> >> > inefficient decoding process with Flash video?
> >>
> >> It's a reference to the fact that Flash is very cpu-intensive.
> >
> > CPU inefficient, you mean.
>
> No, I mean it's cpu-intensive. I don't personally know why it is, but your
> assumption of it being ineficient seems likely.

My observations - not assumptions, as you insultingly state - prove CPU
inefficiency.

Rowland.

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From: Jim on 22 Jan 2010 06:14
On 2010-01-22, Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It's a reference to the fact that Flash is very cpu-intensive.
>> >
>> > CPU inefficient, you mean.
>>
>> No, I mean it's cpu-intensive. I don't personally know why it is, but your
>> assumption of it being ineficient seems likely.
>
> My observations - not assumptions, as you insultingly state - prove CPU
> inefficiency.

All I can see is high cpu-usage during Flash operations, I can't see if the
codec is ineficient or not. I'd need to see the source code for that, and it
seems unlikely that Adobe are going to let me see it. From that point on I'm
simply assuming poor code.

Jim
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