From: Kimmy Boyer on
On Mon, 10 May 2010 20:49:46 -0500, GlowingBlueMist wrote:

> On 5/10/2010 10:06 AM, Kimmy Boyer wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 May 2010 08:11:41 -0500, GlowingBlueMist wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/9/2010 8:31 PM, Kimmy Boyer wrote:
>>>> I own a small cafe and want to give my customers (maybe 10 at most)
>>>> free wifi access when they sit and eat. I have Netgear wireless router
>>>> but it runs on a WPA2 requiring a password.
>>>>
>>>> My concerns are two things. One so that I don't have to give out and
>>>> change passwords every day and two keeping access limited to a very
>>>> small, open atrium area. I turn the router on/off as I come and go.
>>>>
>>>> Any help is appreciated!
>>>>
>>>> Kim
>>>
>>> If you are lucky your router is supported by the DD-WRT or Tomato
>>> firmware upgrade. With either of them them you should be able to set up
>>> a "cafe" style access system with out a password being needed.
>>>
>>> You can set it up to present a screen with your house rules that the
>>> user has to click on and accept before they are allowed onto the internet.
>>>
>>> Here is a link describing the DD-WRT firmware and Cafe access.
>>> http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/tutorials/article.php/3730746/Create-Your-Own-Hotspot-Using-DD-WRT.htm
>>>
>>> If your present router is not supported a suitable replacement can be
>>> found at many places like Ebay, Tigerdirect.com, and many other places.
>>
>> Thanks, my router is a WGT624v3 not supported but I can pick up a
>> Linksys no problemo! I found ready-rolled Hotspot software with
>> Click-Thru from your link.
>>
>> http://www.hotspotsystem.com/en/hotspot/free_hotspot.html
>>
>> Ther atrium area is approximately 2,000 sft 50x40 and is separated
>> from the cafe by glass walls and a hallway.
>>
>> Anyway I can limit the access to the atrium area only (that is where
>> all the seating is)?
>>
>> Kim
>
> Sounds like you have a plan.
>
> You should be able to eliminate the need for you to power down the
> router when not needed as most DD-WRT versions of the software can also
> be told what times and day of the week the wireless can be accessed.
>
> You might want to allow an extra 30 to 60 minutes for those few who stay
> late. There is usually an easy procedure you can follow to override the
> time lock should you have a special party planned during your normal
> "closed" times.
>
> Most DD-WRT have control over the transmitter power and can lower it to
> limit the coverage area, it depends on the router chosen. Take care if
> you raise the power level above the default as many routers can overheat
> with out a fan modification. Some manufacturers limit the transmitter
> power in order to maintain adequate cooling with out the need for a fan
> or a more open design of the case.

Thanks a bunch, GlowingBlueMist!
From: Kimmy Boyer on
On Tue, 11 May 2010 02:55:18 +0000 (UTC), danny burstein wrote:

> [snip]
>
>>You should be able to eliminate the need for you to power down the
>>router when not needed as most DD-WRT versions of the software can also
>>be told what times and day of the week the wireless can be accessed.
>
> no reason not to shut it down completely, and it'll save power, too [a].
>
> A hardware based plug-through-timer is what, $10 or so these days?
> And it'll be a clear and sure way of making certain that the
> router and its wifi signal are dead, dead, dead,
>
> [a] if we figure ten watts, and we can shut it off for real one
> half the time, then that's 12 hours * 30 days * 10 watts =
> => 3,600 wat-hrs/month, or 3.6 kw-hr/month. Ok, it ain't
> a huge number, but you've got to start somewhere...

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