From: ToolPackinMama on 26 Mar 2010 13:48 On 3/26/2010 10:45 AM, Mocassin joe wrote: > Ipad: Hi, I'm an iPad and I am a revolutionary and magical device. > > > Netbook: I'm a netbook and I can do everything you can do and more, and I > can do it, better, faster and cheaper. > > LOL
From: Lloyd Parsons on 26 Mar 2010 13:51 In article <Hd6rn.84063$gF5.24901(a)newsfe13.iad>, "Mocassin joe" <joemocasanto(a)aol.com> wrote: > "Tom Harrington" <tph(a)pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net> wrote in message > news:tph-F8F460.10042226032010(a)localhost... > > In article <2M3rn.10624$Ek4.421(a)newsfe24.iad>, > > "Mocassin joe" <joemocasanto(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > >> Ipad: Hi, I'm an iPad and I am a revolutionary and magical device. > >> > >> > >> Netbook: I'm a netbook and I can do everything you can do and more, and > >> I > >> can do it, better, faster and cheaper. > > > > Mocassin joe: Hi, I'm a usenet troll who has nothing better to do with > > my life. > > Every time you respond, I get paid - thanks. This will be my last response to you in that case. Well, unless you are willing to split the payment with me!! :) -- Lloyd
From: Hadron on 26 Mar 2010 14:01 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM(a)gmail.com> writes: > On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:33:34 -0400, Mocassin joe wrote: > >> "Tom Harrington" <tph(a)pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net> wrote in message >> news:tph-F8F460.10042226032010(a)localhost... >>> In article <2M3rn.10624$Ek4.421(a)newsfe24.iad>, "Mocassin joe" >>> <joemocasanto(a)aol.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Ipad: Hi, I'm an iPad and I am a revolutionary and magical device. >>>> >>>> >>>> Netbook: I'm a netbook and I can do everything you can do and more, >>>> and I >>>> can do it, better, faster and cheaper. >>> >>> Mocassin joe: Hi, I'm a usenet troll who has nothing better to do with >>> my life. >> >> Every time you respond, I get paid - thanks. > > The "iPad" is "cheaper" than... what, exactly? Definitely *not* netbooks. > Even full-powered laptops are often cheaper. And it's definitely not > cheaper than Linux tablets. Its as if you have ZERO idea what the iPad is. The iPad is NOT a cheap notebook knock off.
From: 7 on 26 Mar 2010 14:27 Mocassin joe wrote: > Ipad: Hi, I'm an iPad and I am a revolutionary and magical device. > > > Netbook: I'm a netbook and I can do everything you can do and more, and > I can do it, better, faster and cheaper. Search www.youtube.com for fully translucent 3D compiz desktop. Free to install on netbooks too! Here is how to make fully translucent 3D desktop on a Linux netbook: 3D TRANSLUCENT COMPIZ Using extlinux to convert a liveCD iso to bootable SD card ------------------------------------------------------------- Converting an ISO file to a bootable USB stick or a bootable SD Card for EEE is easy. Without being able to convert a distro into a bootable USB flash /SD Card, that distro can't be easily loaded into netbook like EEE and stand to miss out on users installing it into netbooks. So I would recommend all distro mainters look at their netbook boot strategy and offer something to boot their distros from USB flash and SD cards or miss out on users installing it into netbooks. Having done a few conversions, a pattern emerges that works well for most syslinux / isolinux / extlinux based distros. 1. Put your SD card or USB flash drive into your desktop Linux PC and then open a console and type dmesg You should see some line indicating your flash drive as being picked up and allocated with a comment like sdc / sdc1 etc.. Remember both names - the first is /dev/sdc which is your device name, and the second is /dev/sdc1 which is your partition name. (Don't get confused between drive /dev/sdc and partition /dev/sdc1 or your drive could become scrambled eggs later on. Also remember it may be called sdg or sdh etc depending what you see when you plug in device and type dmesg) 2. Install gparted on your machine using synaptic. To run it you can type sudo gparted in a console window and select on the right side the drive name allocated in step 1. Right click on the bar that represents the partition and click on manage flags. Enable the boot flag and click OK. This makes the SD Card / USB stick bootable. 3. Format the partition /dev/sdc1 to ext2 linux format. This format is not directly readable under WINDUMMY Osen, but there are free drivers for it - try for example www.fs-driver.org The ext2 format is many times faster than windummy FAT so ditching WINDUMMY file formats is advised. 4. Identify that you have syslinux or isolinux in your liveCD by opening the .ISO file in archive manager and checking that it has isolinux or syslinux directory somewhere in the liveCD. In ubuntu, the root directory of /dev/sdc1 will not be writeable unless you are in super user mode. You can run sudo file-roller to open iso files like xubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso in super user mode and extract all the files in the iso file to the /dev/sdc1 partition. 5. Go to the flash drive and locate the syslinux (or isolinux) directory. rename it to extlinux. Inside the now renamed extlinux directory will a file such as syslinux.cfg or isolinux.cfg. Rename that to extlinux.conf 6. Get syslinux - this is a boot loader and menu system for FAT based file systems. Download the latest version from here... http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/boot/syslinux/ Unzip it and go to the extlinux directory. On my machine path is something like this....../syslinux/extlinux Run the program there by typing this - (note this command is updating the partition /dev/sdc1) ./extlinux --install /dev/sdc1/extlinux This puts a new file into your SD card / USB flash disk 7. from the extlinux directory change to the mbr directory cd ../mbr and then run this - again note this time its updating the device by writing data to the first sector as opposed to the first partition. sudo cat mbr.bin > /dev/sdc (Note at this stage you may need to do some of the sudo commands after entering super user mode to make it work properly. So the above command would have been done as follows in Ubuntu. sudo -s cat mbr.bin > /dev/sdc ) This makes the card bootable and useable in an Asus EEE and many other PCs with SD card or USB flash disk boot facility. After booting, you can install Linux on to local disk or an external pocket drive. The pocket drive can be 7200 RPM giving you near desktop speed. This method tested and works for 1. Ubuntu 2. Slax 3. Knoppix 4. Puppy 5. DSL 6. GParted 7. gOS 8. Dynabolic 9. MoonOS Kachana 10. Xubuntu 11. TinyOS (incredible distro!) (Note the method does not work for .ISO files built with grub bootloader - need a different install method with grub boot loader instead of syslinux.) Try installing something powerful like Ubuntu on to a netbook and see it take netbooks to new heights. 3D Translucent Cube Desktop --------------------------- The latest EEE1000 has fast enough graphics for translucent 3D desktops. An easy way to do all this with Ubuntu is: Install Ubuntu on EEE (compiz itself appears to be installed by default in the default install), then install compiz settings manager using Synaptic which allows compiz to be fully 'exercised'. And then do the following to get the 3D cube desktop working... Go to General > Display Settings > Lighting and turned it off Enable Desktop Cube and then Desktop Cube > Transparent Cube and set the two opacity settings to 30% then Desktop Cube > Skydome and check the skydome check mark Enable Rotate Cube Enable Enhanced Zoom Desktop Right click the virtual workspaces panel and increase the number of colums to 16. And hey presto - 100% 3D translucent desktop with 16 screens!!!!!!!!!! [Some shortcuts for the 3D screen ctrl + alt + left or right arrow to spin cube ctrl + alt + down arrow and then left or right arrow for a ring switcher super + E for yet another switcher super + mouse wheel scroll to zoom in and out of the 3D desktop. ] You can run many applications simultaneously on netbook like a real Linux desktop. You can open many browser tabs, run Open Office, video, and developer stuff like MySQL server, Apache, PHP, Gambas, sqlite3 ALL SIMULTANEOUSLY while on a train for example, and rotate the cube to switch between tasks instantly. Gone are the days when netbooks were mis-represented as toys. They are fully functional Linux Desktops on the move. Try it! It works! Reducing Font Sizes And Turning ON Sub Pixel Rendering ------------------------------------------------------ The EEE can be astonishingly good to look at once the font size is reduced to about 8 and sub pixel rendering is turned ON. It is still absolutely readable and everything appeared like a 'full screen' miniature desktop equivalent of a big desktop PC. System > Appearance > Fonts get to the font settings in Ubuntu. On software like firefox and some other applications, need to also to set local use of fonts ( Edit > Preferences > Content will have font settings for firefox that also need to be changed). VirtualBox ---------- Yes! VirtualBox can run on Ubutu set up with 3D translucent desktop. http://www.virtualbox.org Install virtual box and then install programs like windopws XP and run it pretty much at it would run on a normal netbook. Its hard to tell if the netbook is running Linux or the WINDUMMY OSen when the software is run full screen becaue the speed and responsiveness is about the same between a real windummy OSen install and a virtual box virtual machine running it all in Linux. Speeding up netbook to near Desktop speed ----------------------------------------- With the EEE, you can speed up the netbook into a desktop PC able to handle giant applications. Just fit USB 7200 RPM external pocket drive. Install and boot Linux from the external drive. Data transfer rate is about 28 Megabytes per second so video and other stuff work at near desktop speeds. Obviously it uses up a lot more energy and 2 USB sockets and so drains battery very fast. Need to be plugged into a charger to get best performance. You don't want to fit the 7200RPM drive inside the netbook - it will heat up a lot. If you want 7 to 8 hours of battery life from your netbooks you need to limit yourself to slowish SSDs for now. As the pocket drives cost only 40 pounds, another advantage is that you can have several to switch between tasks. If netbooks start shipping with e-Sata, then that would be even better option to get as the e-Sata and 7200 RPM pocket drives desktop drive are common and cheap. http://www.livecdlist.com http://www.distrowatch.com
From: Moshe on 26 Mar 2010 14:31 On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:27:19 +0000, 7 wrote: > Mocassin joe wrote: > >> Ipad: Hi, I'm an iPad and I am a revolutionary and magical device. >> >> >> Netbook: I'm a netbook and I can do everything you can do and more, and >> I can do it, better, faster and cheaper. > > > > Search www.youtube.com for fully translucent 3D compiz desktop. > Free to install on netbooks too! > > Here is how to make fully translucent 3D desktop on a Linux netbook: > > > > > 3D TRANSLUCENT COMPIZ > > > > Using extlinux to convert a liveCD iso to bootable SD card > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > Converting an ISO file to a bootable USB stick or a bootable > SD Card for EEE is easy. > > Without being able to convert a distro into a bootable USB flash /SD Card, > that distro can't be easily loaded into netbook like EEE > and stand to miss out on users installing it into netbooks. > > So I would recommend all distro mainters look at their netbook > boot strategy and offer something to boot their distros > from USB flash and SD cards or miss out on users installing it into > netbooks. > > Having done a few conversions, a pattern emerges that works well for > most syslinux / isolinux / extlinux based distros. > > 1. Put your SD card or USB flash drive into your desktop Linux PC and > then open a console and type dmesg > You should see some line indicating your flash drive as > being picked up and allocated with a comment like sdc / sdc1 etc.. > Remember both names - the first is /dev/sdc which is your > device name, and the second is /dev/sdc1 which is your partition name. > (Don't get confused between drive /dev/sdc and partition /dev/sdc1 > or your drive could become scrambled eggs later on. Also remember > it may be called sdg or sdh etc depending what you see when you > plug in device and type dmesg) > > 2. Install gparted on your machine using synaptic. > To run it you can type > sudo gparted > in a console window and select on the right side the drive name allocated > in step 1. Right click on the bar that represents the partition > and click on manage flags. > Enable the boot flag and click OK. This makes the SD Card / USB > stick bootable. > > 3. Format the partition /dev/sdc1 to ext2 linux format. > This format is not directly readable under WINDUMMY Osen, but there > are free drivers for it - try for example www.fs-driver.org > The ext2 format is many times faster than windummy FAT so > ditching WINDUMMY file formats is advised. > > 4. Identify that you have syslinux or isolinux in your liveCD by > opening the .ISO file in archive manager and checking that it has > isolinux or syslinux directory somewhere in the liveCD. > In ubuntu, the root directory of /dev/sdc1 will not be writeable > unless you are in super user mode. > You can run > sudo file-roller > to open iso files like xubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso in super user > mode and extract all the files in the iso file > to the /dev/sdc1 partition. > > 5. Go to the flash drive and locate the syslinux (or isolinux) directory. > rename it to extlinux. Inside the now renamed extlinux directory will > a file such as syslinux.cfg or isolinux.cfg. Rename that to > extlinux.conf > > 6. Get syslinux - this is a boot loader and menu system for FAT based > file systems. Download the latest version from here... > http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/boot/syslinux/ > Unzip it and go to the extlinux directory. > On my machine path is something like this....../syslinux/extlinux > Run the program there by typing this - (note this command is updating > the partition /dev/sdc1) > > ./extlinux --install /dev/sdc1/extlinux > > This puts a new file into your SD card / USB flash disk > > 7. from the extlinux directory change to the mbr directory > cd ../mbr > and then run this - again note this time its updating the device by > writing data to the first sector as opposed to the first partition. > > sudo cat mbr.bin > /dev/sdc > > (Note at this stage you may need to do some of the sudo commands after > entering super user mode to make it work properly. > So the above command would have been done as follows in Ubuntu. > > sudo -s > cat mbr.bin > /dev/sdc > ) > > This makes the card bootable and useable in an Asus EEE and many other > PCs with SD card or USB flash disk boot facility. > > After booting, you can install Linux on to local disk or an external > pocket drive. The pocket drive can be 7200 RPM giving you near desktop > speed. > > This method tested and works for > > 1. Ubuntu > 2. Slax > 3. Knoppix > 4. Puppy > 5. DSL > 6. GParted > 7. gOS > 8. Dynabolic > 9. MoonOS Kachana > 10. Xubuntu > 11. TinyOS (incredible distro!) > > > (Note the method does not work for .ISO files built with grub bootloader - > need a different install method with grub boot loader instead of syslinux.) > > Try installing something powerful like Ubuntu on to a netbook > and see it take netbooks to new heights. > > > 3D Translucent Cube Desktop > --------------------------- > > The latest EEE1000 has fast enough graphics for translucent > 3D desktops. An easy way to do all this with Ubuntu is: > > Install Ubuntu on EEE (compiz itself > appears to be installed by default in the default install), > then install compiz settings manager using Synaptic > which allows compiz to be fully 'exercised'. > And then do the following to get the 3D cube desktop > working... > > Go to General > Display Settings > Lighting and turned it off > Enable Desktop Cube and then Desktop Cube > Transparent Cube and set the > two opacity settings to 30% > then Desktop Cube > Skydome and check the skydome check mark > Enable Rotate Cube > Enable Enhanced Zoom Desktop > Right click the virtual workspaces panel and increase the number > of colums to 16. > > And hey presto - 100% 3D translucent desktop with 16 screens!!!!!!!!!! > > [Some shortcuts for the 3D screen > ctrl + alt + left or right arrow to spin cube > ctrl + alt + down arrow and then left or right arrow for a ring switcher > super + E for yet another switcher > super + mouse wheel scroll to zoom in and out of the 3D desktop. > ] > > You can run many applications simultaneously on netbook like a > real Linux desktop. You can open many browser tabs, run Open Office, video, > and developer stuff like MySQL server, Apache, PHP, Gambas, sqlite3 > ALL SIMULTANEOUSLY while on a train for example, and rotate the > cube to switch between tasks instantly. Gone are the days when netbooks > were mis-represented as toys. They are fully functional Linux > Desktops on the move. Try it! It works! > > > Reducing Font Sizes And Turning ON Sub Pixel Rendering > ------------------------------------------------------ > > The EEE can be astonishingly good to look at once the > font size is reduced to about 8 and sub pixel rendering > is turned ON. It is still absolutely > readable and everything appeared like a 'full screen' miniature > desktop equivalent of a big desktop PC. > System > Appearance > Fonts get to the font settings > in Ubuntu. On software like firefox and some other applications, > need to also to set local use of fonts ( Edit > Preferences > Content > will have font settings for firefox that also need to be changed). > > > VirtualBox > ---------- > Yes! VirtualBox can run on Ubutu set up with 3D translucent desktop. > http://www.virtualbox.org > > Install virtual box and then install programs like windopws XP and run > it pretty much at it would run on a normal netbook. Its hard to tell > if the netbook is running Linux or the WINDUMMY OSen when the software > is run full screen becaue the speed and responsiveness is about > the same between a real windummy OSen install and a virtual box > virtual machine running it all in Linux. > > > Speeding up netbook to near Desktop speed > ----------------------------------------- > With the EEE, you can speed up the netbook into a desktop PC able to handle > giant applications. Just fit USB 7200 RPM external pocket drive. Install > and boot Linux from the external drive. Data transfer rate is about 28 > Megabytes per second so video and other stuff work at near desktop speeds. > Obviously it uses up a lot more energy and 2 USB sockets and so > drains battery very fast. Need to be plugged into a charger to > get best performance. You don't want to fit the 7200RPM drive > inside the netbook - it will heat up a lot. If you want 7 to 8 hours of > battery life from your netbooks you need to limit yourself to slowish SSDs > for now. As the pocket drives cost only 40 pounds, another advantage > is that you can have several to switch between tasks. > > If netbooks start shipping with e-Sata, then that would be even better > option to get as the e-Sata and 7200 RPM pocket drives > desktop drive are common and cheap. > > > http://www.livecdlist.com > http://www.distrowatch.com All that just to make Linux look presentable? Seems like a waste of time to me.
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