From: ~misfit~ on
Somewhere on teh intarwebs the wharf rat wrote:
> In article <hj75ui$a8m$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>>
>> have to show us:
>>
>> 1) How color CRTs don't have pixels
>
> The Sunday comics are images made of pixels. Are they also LCDs?
>
> The answer isn't "yes, they all have dots!". The answer is that
> CRT pixels are composed of phosphors stimulated by a varying electron
> beam. LCD pixels are composed of arrays of transistors that are
> individually addressed to create images. A CRT monitor can scale
> down to any resolution by adjusting the electron beam. An LCD
> monitor can scale down ONLY by using fewer pixels than the whole
> array (the "small picture in black border" method) or
> by blending adjacent pixels so that the array effectively uses fewer
> of them. Both seriously degrade the user experience...
>
> There's no such thing as a multisync LCD. At least not on the
> planet Earth.
>
>> 2) How flash SSD and flash drives are not really the same thing.
>
> A Solid state storage device meant to be used as the primary
> storage for a computer (as opposed to a device meant to be used as
> a sort of very large floppy disc) has a lot of (expensive) extra
> spare capacity built in (to allow bad block mapping) and complicated
> firmware programming (to work around cell death and slow write
> speeds).
> What you're saying is equivalent to claiming that you could pull a
> horse trailer with your golf cart because it has four wheels and a
> motor just
> like my Dodge Ram and so your golf cart MUST be a pickup truck.

You're wasting you time rat, I get into it with this clown at least once
every few months, when I can no longer stomach his idiocy. (He has two
subjects, netbooks and SSDs [or flash drives, LOL].) The more you try to
take him to task the more off on a tangent he goes.

I guess I'm lucky he's just a faceless entity on usenet and not my
brother-in-law or next-door neighbour or I'd probably have killed him by
now.
--
Shaun.

"Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's
warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchet, 'Jingo'.


From: BillW50 on
the wharf rat wrote on Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:39:32 +0000 (UTC):
> In article <hj75ui$a8m$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>> have to show us:
>>
>> 1) How color CRTs don't have pixels
>
> The Sunday comics are images made of pixels. Are they also LCDs?

Nope! Although mood rings from the hippy days are LCD. No pixels though.

> The answer isn't "yes, they all have dots!". The answer is that
> CRT pixels are composed of phosphors stimulated by a varying electron beam.
> LCD pixels are composed of arrays of transistors that are individually
> addressed to create images. A CRT monitor can scale down to any resolution by
> adjusting the electron beam. An LCD monitor can scale down ONLY by using fewer
> pixels than the whole array (the "small picture in black border" method) or
> by blending adjacent pixels so that the array effectively uses fewer of them.
> Both seriously degrade the user experience...

That is what I am saying. Although the pixels used on CRT monitors
doesn't normally match the screen resolution. So why not? Shouldn't that
be far better? Doesn't the CRT resolution degraded as well do to this?

> There's no such thing as a multisync LCD. At least not on the
> planet Earth.

Maybe not in your Universe, but in mine there is such a thing. A quick
search pulled up this one for example.

http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/nec-multisync-1550v/4505-3174_7-7105749.html

>> 2) How flash SSD and flash drives are not really the same thing.
>
> A Solid state storage device meant to be used as the primary
> storage for a computer (as opposed to a device meant to be used as
> a sort of very large floppy disc) has a lot of (expensive) extra
> spare capacity built in (to allow bad block mapping) and complicated
> firmware programming (to work around cell death and slow write speeds).
> What you're saying is equivalent to claiming that you could pull a horse
> trailer with your golf cart because it has four wheels and a motor just
> like my Dodge Ram and so your golf cart MUST be a pickup truck.

Maybe I am thinking like an electronic engineer and not like a typical
computer user.

Okay it is like this. A SSD and a flash drive is the same, much like an
internal HDD and an external HDD are the same.

Can you take a SSD and throw it into an external case like you can with
HDD? Sure you can. Can you take a flash drive and use it as an internal
SSD? Sure you can if you have the right interface.

Is there any difference between an internal HDD and an external HDD?
Nope not really. You can interchange them.

Are SSD and flash drives the same internally like internal and external
HDD? You bet they are. They use the same flash memory and the same
controllers.

There has been many people already who are good at hardware hacking of
taking flash drives and mounting them inside and using them as SSD.
Although for most people, you would be better off using a SSD or a flash
drive with the same interface as your internal connection already has.

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Xandros Linux (build 2007-10-19 13:03)
From: ~misfit~ on
Somewhere on teh intarwebs BillW50 wrote:
> the wharf rat wrote on Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:39:32 +0000 (UTC):
>> In article <hj75ui$a8m$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
>> BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>>> have to show us:
>>>
>>> 1) How color CRTs don't have pixels
>>
>> The Sunday comics are images made of pixels. Are they also LCDs?
>
> Nope!

They are made of pixels.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pixel

Pixel is short for 'picture element' and, as a term, can be retrospectively
applied to anything that fits such a term.

Y'know, like we can talk about dinosaur DNA even though DNA wasn't a common
term back then.
--
Shaun.

"Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's
warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchet, 'Jingo'.


From: the wharf rat on
In article <hjas67$s7l$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>
>Refresh my memory? Didn't they have 'The Force' on their side?
>

They attacked a great big Death Star with little tiny rowboats.

>And Barry's excuse this doesn't apply to CRTs because they don't use
>pixels. But color CRTs *does* use pixels too! So my question is, why
>doesn't this same claim about LCD also apply to CRTs?
>

Because an LCD can't do multisync. It sort of emulates a lower
resolution by either treating clusters of cells (pixels) as one larger
cell or by lighting only a portion of the array. A CRT actually DOES scale
the image by adjusting the electron beam. One sucks, the other doesn't :-)

>and taller, I already know I am just screwed! As I already know I
>couldn't take on such a giant even on their worst day. lol

Get a slingshot.

From: the wharf rat on
In article <hjb8a2$g3m$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
~misfit~ <sore_n_happy(a)yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote:
>
>What, you didn't say "literally a rocket scientist" this time? Right, I
>guess it's best to leave that one in the bunker for special occasions.
>

I don't thin kthey have bunks on rockets. They have big padded
chair things like vinyl LaZBoys.

>
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