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From: the wharf rat on 22 Jan 2010 01:05 In article <hjanvl$129$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: > >Doesn't the CRT resolution degraded as well do to this? > Aaaahhhhhhh!!!!!! Aaaaaaaaaahhhhhh! Aaaaaaarrrrggghhhh! > >http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/nec-multisync-1550v/4505-3174_7-7105749.html That's a BRAND NAME! Not a technology... Ooooohhhh, my head hurts.
From: ~misfit~ on 22 Jan 2010 05:17 Somewhere on teh intarwebs the wharf rat wrote: > In article <hjanvl$129$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: >> >> Doesn't the CRT resolution degraded as well do to this? >> > > Aaaahhhhhhh!!!!!! Aaaaaaaaaahhhhhh! Aaaaaaarrrrggghhhh! >> >> http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/nec-multisync-1550v/4505-3174_7-7105749.html > > That's a BRAND NAME! Not a technology... > > Ooooohhhh, my head hurts. LOL. That's why I just killfiled him. Life's just too short.... -- Shaun. "Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchet, 'Jingo'.
From: BillW50 on 22 Jan 2010 14:23 ~misfit~ wrote on Fri, 22 Jan 2010 23:17:09 +1300: > Somewhere on teh intarwebs the wharf rat wrote: >> In article <hjanvl$129$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, >> BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: >>> Doesn't the CRT resolution degraded as well do to this? >>> >> Aaaahhhhhhh!!!!!! Aaaaaaaaaahhhhhh! Aaaaaaarrrrggghhhh! >>> http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/nec-multisync-1550v/4505-3174_7-7105749.html >> That's a BRAND NAME! Not a technology... >> >> Ooooohhhh, my head hurts. > > LOL. That's why I just killfiled him. Life's just too short.... You have no idea what a multisync monitor actually means, do you wharf rat? Yes NEC uses the name on their multisync monitors for obvious reasons. Because they are multisync monitors. This should be a no brainier. There are two kinds of monitors. Fixed frequency and multisync monitors. Fixed can only handle one refresh rate, say 60 hertz for example. Multisync monitors can handle more than one refresh rate, thus the name. Now claiming there are no multisync LCD monitors in your world is very strange. As in ours, we can use different scan rates with are LCD monitors. And we can adjust how often our pixels gets updated. So sad that in your world, your scan rates are fixed. Sorry to hear that. This Gateway LCD HD1900 is a multisync monitor and can handle up to 75 hertz vertical and 80 hertz horizontal, for example. http://www.gateway.com/product_spec.php?product_recid=529668251 And Shaun, sorry to hear you are calling it quits. As you can't get anything right anyway and this is just another example. So maybe it is best if you leave this stuff to the experts. As it is better than leaving much disinformation and having others to always clean up the mess you leave around. -- Bill Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC Xandros Linux (build 2007-10-19 13:03)
From: the wharf rat on 22 Jan 2010 15:28 In article <hjcttl$ca5$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: > >You have no idea what a multisync monitor actually means, do you wharf >rat? Yes NEC uses the name on their multisync monitors for obvious >reasons. Because they are multisync monitors. This should be a no brainier. > There's no such thing as a multisync LCD. An LCD doesn't scan. Each picture element is individually addressed. Now, an LCD (or a driver) may display a scan rate because there's a signal on that wire, but it's not scanning. It's got nothing to scan with. >And we can adjust how often our pixels gets updated. That's refresh. Not scan. The monitor uses the vertical scan frequency to decide how often to refresh. It's got nothing to do with scan. Ok, look, if the LCD is scanning WHAT is it scanning with? No electron guns. Pixels dont' fade so no reason to refresh unless an image might have changed...
From: BillW50 on 22 Jan 2010 17:36
the wharf rat wrote on Fri, 22 Jan 2010 20:28:39 +0000 (UTC): > In article <hjcttl$ca5$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: >> You have no idea what a multisync monitor actually means, do you wharf >> rat? Yes NEC uses the name on their multisync monitors for obvious >> reasons. Because they are multisync monitors. This should be a no brainier. > > There's no such thing as a multisync LCD. An LCD doesn't scan. Sure there is. Any LCD monitor which can handle more than one frequency are multisync monitors. LCD TVs I am not sure, but they might be mostly fixed frequency LCD and than they wouldn't be multisync. > Each picture element is individually addressed. Yes and it gets this information from the video card which puts out the scanned video signal. > Now, an LCD (or a driver) may display a scan rate because there's > a signal on that wire, but it's not scanning. It's got nothing to scan with. Sure it does. Each pixel gets updated just like it does with CRTs. The first pixel in the top left gets updated first, then the next one to the right, and so on until the whole line gets updated. Then it starts over, but now with pixel just below the first one. And this continues until it updates the whole screen. >> And we can adjust how often our pixels gets updated. > > That's refresh. Not scan. The monitor uses the vertical scan > frequency to decide how often to refresh. It's got nothing to do with > scan. Not so! One complete scan equals one refresh cycle. > Ok, look, if the LCD is scanning WHAT is it scanning with? No > electron guns. Pixels dont' fade so no reason to refresh unless an image > might have changed... Right, no electron guns. Although it scans row by row the same way. And each pixel gets updated during its moment in time in sync with the scan signal. And passive-matrix LCDs do have to be refreshed. or the screen would fade in a matter of a few hundred milliseconds. As during each scan, it gets a small charge and it bleeds off quickly. Thus it must be refreshed or it just fades away. But you are probably thinking of Active Matrix LCD, which does not have this persistence problem. Even still, a given pixel only gets updated when its time has come up during the scan. If I recall correctly, every pixel gets updated about every 16.7 ms. Because LCDs and CRTs scan the same way, we can use the very same video signal for either type of display. If it worked differently, this wouldn't be possible. -- Bill Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC Xandros Linux (build 2007-10-19 13:03) |