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From: eric gisse on 28 May 2010 00:02 Paul Stowe wrote: [...] > Of course the MMX [...] I find the fixation on the Michelson-Morley experiment to be curious given the CENTURY OF EXPERIMENTAL PHYSICS THAT CAME AFTER IT.
From: Paul Stowe on 28 May 2010 00:18 On May 27, 9:02 pm, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Paul Stowe wrote: > > [...] > > > Of course the MMX [...] > > I find the fixation on the Michelson-Morley experiment to be curious given > the CENTURY OF EXPERIMENTAL PHYSICS THAT CAME AFTER IT. My sentiments exactly, which, of course, I said earlier in this thread...
From: Surfer on 28 May 2010 03:06 On Fri, 28 May 2010 13:42:31 +1000, "whoever" <whoever(a)whereever.com> wrote: > >No experiment has ever shown that >there is any aether, because the properties of the aether have been invented >such that (conventiently) you cannot measure it > Perhaps aether is the wrong term then. However, there seems to be fairly good evidence that light propagates relative to a medium at speed c. Eg. Combining NASA/JPL One-Way Optical-Fiber Light-Speed Data with Spacecraft Earth-Flyby Doppler-Shift Data to Characterise 3-Space Flow http://arxiv.org/abs/0906.5404 Resolving Spacecraft Earth-Flyby Anomalies with Measured Light Speed Anisotropy http://arxiv.org/abs/0804.0039
From: eric gisse on 28 May 2010 03:50 Surfer wrote: > On Fri, 28 May 2010 13:42:31 +1000, "whoever" <whoever(a)whereever.com> > wrote: > >> >>No experiment has ever shown that >>there is any aether, because the properties of the aether have been >>invented such that (conventiently) you cannot measure it >> > Perhaps aether is the wrong term then. > > However, there seems to be fairly good evidence that light propagates > relative to a medium at speed c. Eg. > > Combining NASA/JPL One-Way Optical-Fiber Light-Speed Data with > Spacecraft Earth-Flyby Doppler-Shift Data to Characterise 3-Space Flow > http://arxiv.org/abs/0906.5404 > > Resolving Spacecraft Earth-Flyby Anomalies with Measured Light Speed > Anisotropy > http://arxiv.org/abs/0804.0039 What do you get for doing this?
From: harald on 28 May 2010 04:21
On May 28, 5:42 am, "whoever" <whoe...(a)whereever.com> wrote: > "Paul Stowe" <theaether...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:ef781c24-3b18-4906-aea6-facc6417ba87(a)p5g2000pri.googlegroups.com... > > > On May 27, 7:07 am, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> Paul Stowe wrote: > >> > [... Lorentz contraction] BUT! because it physically DOES occur > > >> What God whispered in your ear and told you this? > > > No God, the physical existence of time dilation... > > Yes .. we measure time dilation .. consistent with both LET and SR (as they > predict the same measurements). We actually also measure it consistent with > GR .. LET does not predict what we actually measure in those cases. > > So how does that indicate that there is actual Lorentz compression due to > movement through an aether? "Whoever" thinks that Lorentz contraction is a "compression" is clueless... [...] Harald |