From: eric gisse on
Paul Stowe wrote:


[...]

> Of course the MMX [...]

I find the fixation on the Michelson-Morley experiment to be curious given
the CENTURY OF EXPERIMENTAL PHYSICS THAT CAME AFTER IT.

From: Paul Stowe on
On May 27, 9:02 pm, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Paul Stowe wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Of course the MMX [...]
>
> I find the fixation on the Michelson-Morley experiment to be curious given
> the CENTURY OF EXPERIMENTAL PHYSICS THAT CAME AFTER IT.

My sentiments exactly, which, of course, I said earlier in this
thread...

From: Surfer on
On Fri, 28 May 2010 13:42:31 +1000, "whoever" <whoever(a)whereever.com>
wrote:

>
>No experiment has ever shown that
>there is any aether, because the properties of the aether have been invented
>such that (conventiently) you cannot measure it
>
Perhaps aether is the wrong term then.

However, there seems to be fairly good evidence that light propagates
relative to a medium at speed c. Eg.

Combining NASA/JPL One-Way Optical-Fiber Light-Speed Data with
Spacecraft Earth-Flyby Doppler-Shift Data to Characterise 3-Space Flow
http://arxiv.org/abs/0906.5404

Resolving Spacecraft Earth-Flyby Anomalies with Measured Light Speed
Anisotropy
http://arxiv.org/abs/0804.0039




From: eric gisse on
Surfer wrote:

> On Fri, 28 May 2010 13:42:31 +1000, "whoever" <whoever(a)whereever.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>No experiment has ever shown that
>>there is any aether, because the properties of the aether have been
>>invented such that (conventiently) you cannot measure it
>>
> Perhaps aether is the wrong term then.
>
> However, there seems to be fairly good evidence that light propagates
> relative to a medium at speed c. Eg.
>
> Combining NASA/JPL One-Way Optical-Fiber Light-Speed Data with
> Spacecraft Earth-Flyby Doppler-Shift Data to Characterise 3-Space Flow
> http://arxiv.org/abs/0906.5404
>
> Resolving Spacecraft Earth-Flyby Anomalies with Measured Light Speed
> Anisotropy
> http://arxiv.org/abs/0804.0039

What do you get for doing this?
From: harald on
On May 28, 5:42 am, "whoever" <whoe...(a)whereever.com> wrote:
> "Paul Stowe" <theaether...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ef781c24-3b18-4906-aea6-facc6417ba87(a)p5g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On May 27, 7:07 am, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >> Paul Stowe wrote:
> >> > [... Lorentz contraction] BUT! because it physically DOES occur
>
> >> What God whispered in your ear and told you this?
>
> > No God, the physical existence of time dilation...
>
> Yes .. we measure time dilation .. consistent with both LET and SR (as they
> predict the same measurements).  We actually also measure it consistent with
> GR .. LET does not predict what we actually measure in those cases.
>
> So how does that indicate that there is actual Lorentz compression due to
> movement through an aether?  

"Whoever" thinks that Lorentz contraction is a "compression" is
clueless...

[...]

Harald