How does the AM3 AMD Phenom II X4 630 2.80GHz rank these days?
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From: Al Dykes on 23 Jan 2010 01:03 I'm looking at buying a HP Pavilion p6310f Desktop PC which is based on a motherboard brand I've never heard of. It's called Violet 6-GL8E Motherboard (There may be a variation on "Violet" from some sources. The CPU is AMD Phenom II X4 630 2.80GHz I'm looking for a fast system but not bleadiung edge. No serious games. Nothing that lots of CPU cycles can't solve. How does that CPU rate these days. I've lost track of the models. It will be running W/7/64 bit. COmments? -- Al Dykes News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising. - Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail
From: Paul on 23 Jan 2010 02:31 Al Dykes wrote: > I'm looking at buying a HP Pavilion p6310f Desktop PC which is based > on a motherboard brand I've never heard of. It's called Violet 6-GL8E > Motherboard (There may be a variation on "Violet" from some sources. > > The CPU is AMD Phenom II X4 630 2.80GHz > > I'm looking for a fast system but not bleadiung edge. No serious > games. Nothing that lots of CPU cycles can't solve. > > How does that CPU rate these days. I've lost track of the models. > > It will be running W/7/64 bit. > > COmments? > I can't be certain I have exactly the right motherboard, but there is a picture here of the M2N78-LA. It is branded "Pegatron", which I believe is an Asus subsidiary. The "M2N78" is an Asus type of part number (but of course, you'll find no mention of this board on an Asus support site). http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf-JAVA/Doc/images/c01635737.jpg The first thing I don't like about that motherboard, is it has no PCI slots. If you wanted to move that high end PCI sound card you own, over from your old system -- no slot. The board appears to have built-in graphics, which are fine for an office system. You'll want a graphics card installed in the x16 slot, for gaming. The power supply in the computer is 300W, which doesn't leave a lot of room for the power consumption of $600 video cards. You can get processor benchmarks here. I have no confidence in their benchmarking skills, but they do have the money to pay people to test a lot of hardware. I guess that is worth something. http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-charts-update-1/benchmarks,60.html You could use the Fritz chess game benchmark. Your processor is about the same as a Q6700 quad core. http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-charts-update-1/Fritz-11,1406.html The Athlon II X4 630 is a quad core with no L3 cache. Whether that is an issue, depends on what you're doing with it. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103704 And yet, when I check a WinRAR benchmark, which historically is a memory bandwidth dependent benchmark, it doesn't seem to have suffered too much. It is no longer as fast as the Q6700, and takes 118 seconds compared to the 92 seconds for the Q6700. http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-charts-update-1/WinRAR-3.9-x64-Beta1,1399.html In a 95W processor, this would be about the fastest substitute. Looking in the Tomshardware chart, this gives a WinRAR benchmark of 91 seconds. So you'd be catching up to the Q6700 again, if you popped this into the CPU socket. That is, if you frequently did things that benefited from more cache. Most people don't spend the whole day doing WinRAR, and as a benchmark, it is intended to highlight a pathological case of a dependence on memory bandwidth. AMD Phenom II X4 945, 3000MHz, 4x512KB L2, 6MB L3 95W http://products.amd.com/en-ca/DesktopCPUDetail.aspx?id=619 Hope that gives you some idea what you're getting. Paul
From: Al Dykes on 23 Jan 2010 07:33 In article <hje8kl$vhd$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Paul <nospam(a)needed.com> wrote: >Al Dykes wrote: >> I'm looking at buying a HP Pavilion p6310f Desktop PC which is based >> on a motherboard brand I've never heard of. It's called Violet 6-GL8E >> Motherboard (There may be a variation on "Violet" from some sources. >> >> The CPU is AMD Phenom II X4 630 2.80GHz >> >> I'm looking for a fast system but not bleadiung edge. No serious >> games. Nothing that lots of CPU cycles can't solve. >> >> How does that CPU rate these days. I've lost track of the models. >> >> It will be running W/7/64 bit. >> >> COmments? >> > >I can't be certain I have exactly the right motherboard, but there >is a picture here of the M2N78-LA. It is branded "Pegatron", which >I believe is an Asus subsidiary. The "M2N78" is an Asus type of part >number (but of course, you'll find no mention of this board on an >Asus support site). > >http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf-JAVA/Doc/images/c01635737.jpg > >The first thing I don't like about that motherboard, is it has no >PCI slots. If you wanted to move that high end PCI sound card you own, >over from your old system -- no slot. > >The board appears to have built-in graphics, which are fine for >an office system. You'll want a graphics card installed in the x16 >slot, for gaming. The power supply in the computer is 300W, which >doesn't leave a lot of room for the power consumption of $600 video cards. > >You can get processor benchmarks here. I have no confidence in their >benchmarking skills, but they do have the money to pay people to test >a lot of hardware. I guess that is worth something. > >http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-charts-update-1/benchmarks,60.html > >You could use the Fritz chess game benchmark. Your processor is about >the same as a Q6700 quad core. > >http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-charts-update-1/Fritz-11,1406.html > >The Athlon II X4 630 is a quad core with no L3 cache. Whether that is >an issue, depends on what you're doing with it. > >http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103704 > >And yet, when I check a WinRAR benchmark, which historically is a >memory bandwidth dependent benchmark, it doesn't seem to have >suffered too much. It is no longer as fast as the Q6700, and >takes 118 seconds compared to the 92 seconds for the Q6700. > >http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-charts-update-1/WinRAR-3.9-x64-Beta1,1399.html > >In a 95W processor, this would be about the fastest substitute. Looking >in the Tomshardware chart, this gives a WinRAR benchmark of 91 seconds. >So you'd be catching up to the Q6700 again, if you popped this into >the CPU socket. That is, if you frequently did things that benefited >from more cache. Most people don't spend the whole day doing WinRAR, >and as a benchmark, it is intended to highlight a pathological case >of a dependence on memory bandwidth. > >AMD Phenom II X4 945, 3000MHz, 4x512KB L2, 6MB L3 95W > >http://products.amd.com/en-ca/DesktopCPUDetail.aspx?id=619 > >Hope that gives you some idea what you're getting. > > Paul Thanks -- Al Dykes News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising. - Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail
From: Man-wai Chang to The Door (24000bps) on 23 Jan 2010 07:40
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